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Gotkub0456

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First of all i don’t abuse stimulants, this will be about 2 substances a-PiHP and NEP, these are my timings and dosing details all of these are in a span of around 3 months

I don’t have any serious health issues or diagnosed with something serious, but my dad has died of diabetes

personally taking kratom with cough syrup containing either DPH or Chlopheniramine melate, i know it sounds weird for taking Kratom with cough syrup but that’s how my country consume it, with normal fruit syrup gives me headache and nausea

1st time a-PiHP 50 mg oral feel the euphoria

2nd time a-PiHP 50 mg oral felt the euphoria and, then redosing get a little bit of unpleastness but very mild it got worsened every time.

3rd time NEP 50 oral and 30 mg rectally only felt for the first time and redosing gave me more unpleastness than last time

4th time, 5th time, 6th time all went with two dosings but after the 3rd time no euphoria at all just these
Symptoms
anxiety
panic attacks
feeling like about to have a seizure
shaky
mild heart palpations
mild nausea
chest tightness (rarely)
Acy right shoulder not painful it’s like when you life weights and it’s achy and tired
feeling fainting and feeling like you spin around and collapsing like when you nod because of not enough sleep


no matter how many times i try it regardless of ROAs, it’s no euphoria happy feelings for me just those symptoms

Does anyon know any about this?

Should i try substituted Amphetamines like 3-MMA? Would it get rid of the problems?

P.S. I’m a layman not a chemist or anything related to science at all
P.S.2 all were not bunk and came from very trustworthy vendor
 

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Greetings. The indicated dosages can be considered high, and in the case of NEP, even heavy. Given the use of Kratom, you may have some cross-tolerance, but I don't think it reaches such a degree for which you need to take such doses. Considering that you have noted that you do not abuse stimulants. Try to reduce dosages and start, for example, with 10-15 mg.
 

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dopaminergic stimulants are known for causing anxiety, the pyrrovalerones(mdpv,a-pihp,apvp etc.) even more so. I'd recommend switching to other stimulants to be honest.
 
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