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Goodafternoon guys,

I have a question about recrystallizing sugar or needle ketamine hcl.
How do you get these big rocks of keta?
Just make saturated solution of ipa/water and evaporate same as normal?
 

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Yes, try it. But large crystals will grow easier when you carry out a separating isomers procedure.
 
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Ummm, nope. There is no such thing as separating isomers with ketamine. It is separation of enantiomers. (i.e R/S D/L E/Z)

The s-enantiomer of ketamine has a difficult time forming large boulders, whereas the racemic variety can form them easily with proper lab technique.

What is that technique? Hard work and something to do with a thermos. Thank me later.
 

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Yes i have stumbled on a piece of text describing this... Going to need to be creative doing this large scale.
Many thanks for the pointer...
 

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Goodafternoon guys,

I have a question about recrystallizing sugar or needle ketamine hcl.
How do you get these big rocks of keta?
Just make saturated solution of ipa/water and evaporate same as normal?
SelassiHello,did the experiment finally succeed?Can you tell me the detailed method?thank you!
 

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I tried with the freezer/thermos technique. But im still failing to produce rocks...

Im not going past the shardlike shapes like this
 

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I tried untill satured in boiling water/methanol and then how they said it in the thermos way but no rocks
 

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No it doesnt need evaporation before freezing, does it?
 

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Try dissolving it in methanol or ethanol and evaporate the alcohol, that should work.

Have you ever recrystallized ketamine powder into stick crystals?
 

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No evaporation doesnt yield the solid rocks. It yields a crystalcake of small needle-like crystals indeed.

Tried freeze method and yielded bigger shard-like crystals like i posted before, but still.no rocks...
 

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No evaporation doesnt yield the solid rocks. It yields a crystalcake of small needle-like crystals indeed.

Tried freeze method and yielded bigger shard-like crystals like i posted before, but still.no rocks...
SelassiWhy do you want rocks?
Have you any idea how the dutch do it?
Ia your ketamine racemic or s isomer?
 

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No evaporation doesnt yield the solid rocks. It yields a crystalcake of small needle-like crystals indeed.

Tried freeze method and yielded bigger shard-like crystals like i posted before, but still.no rocks...
SelassiWhy do you want rocks?
Have you any idea how the dutch do it?
Ia your ketamine racemic or s isomer
 

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Rocks yes we want to make rocks
Its racemic keta ye, not S
 

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What is the thermos method?
 

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Use à vaccum dessicator you'll get bug crystal also the batch should be big enough
 

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What do you mean, do you recrystallise in a solvent , in a vacuum dessicator
 

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What do you mean, do you recrystallise in a solvent , in a vacuum dessicator
kangarooYou dissolve with demineralised water and let it dry at room temps in the dessicator for 4 to 5 days dépend on the size of the batch
 
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