What is D-Lysergic acid methyl ester

[csigger]

Hi.
D-Lysergic acid methyl ester cas 4579-64-0 is psychoactive, or precursor for lsd? Dosage?
Thank you!

 

[thankyou888]

Perfect question brother.

I think you can produce 100's of gram of LSD with this substance.

First the methyl ester needs to be hydrolyse into carboxylic acid that is LSA and than convert it into LSD.
Probably 2methods are described here which will convert LSA to LSD.

How to convert ester to acid.? That's very simple. Just add any base into it so acid will be converted into metal salt and pure it. You can find this guide on erowid.

We seriously need attention of experts. @G.Patton @HIGGS BOSSON @William Dampier and @hisenberg

 

[G.Patton]

Perfect question brother.

I think you can produce 100's of gram of LSD with this substance.

First the methyl ester needs to be hydrolyse into carboxylic acid that is LSA and than convert it into LSD.
Probably 2methods are described here which will convert LSA to LSD.

How to convert ester to acid.? That's very simple. Just add any base into it so acid will be converted into metal salt and pure it. You can find this guide on erowid.

We seriously need attention of experts. @G.Patton @HIGGS BOSSON @William Dampier and @hisenberg

thankyou888Hello. What exactly do you need? You already described LDS synthesis way from cas 4579-64-0.

 

[btcboss2022]

Perfect question brother.

I think you can produce 100's of gram of LSD with this substance.

First the methyl ester needs to be hydrolyse into carboxylic acid that is LSA and than convert it into LSD.
Probably 2methods are described here which will convert LSA to LSD.

How to convert ester to acid.? That's very simple. Just add any base into it so acid will be converted into metal salt and pure it. You can find this guide on erowid.

We seriously need attention of experts. @G.Patton @HIGGS BOSSON @William Dampier and @hisenberg

thankyou888Hydrolysis of D-Lysergic acid methyl ester with HCl for example will get d-lysergic acid amide(LSA) but you must be careful about temps and times with these products normally low temps and long times are used I don't have the exact numbers of it.
LSA as psychoactive effects by itself similar to LSD but you need bigger doses of LSA for similar effects of LSD.
About LSA into LSD I don't know the exact process but I can search it.
Is what I can help on it ;-)

 

[G.Patton]

About LSA into LSD I don't know the exact process but I can search it.

btcboss2022LSD synthesis from lysergic acid via PyBOP

 

[btcboss2022]

LSD synthesis from lysergic acid via PyBOP

G.PattonNice thanks! I will check it carefully seems interesting.

 

[csigger]

How much lsd will be in 10g D-Lysergic acid methyl ester?

 

[thankyou888]

How much lsd will be in 10g D-Lysergic acid methyl ester?

csiggerExpect >60%

 

[csigger]

Can I ask someone to describe step by step how to make lysergic acid form D-Lysergic acid methyl ester?
Does anyone have enough knowledge or desire to help me? If there is someone who can mentor me, then I would dare to start. A dream would come true. I don't want the help for free.

 

[ICchemist]

Perfect question brother.

I think you can produce 100's of gram of LSD with this substance.

First the methyl ester needs to be hydrolyse into carboxylic acid that is LSA and than convert it into LSD.
Probably 2methods are described here which will convert LSA to LSD.

How to convert ester to acid.? That's very simple. Just add any base into it so acid will be converted into metal salt and pure it. You can find this guide on erowid.

We seriously need attention of experts. @G.Patton @HIGGS BOSSON @William Dampier and @hisenberg

thankyou888I'm a bit confused but I may be wrong. Why would hydrolysis of D-Lysergic acid methyl ester result in formation of LSA (AN AMIDE) rather than the simple Lysergic acid (Carboxylic acid). Because from what I've observed, when you react an ester with an acid like HCl it forms a carboxylic acid and not an amide. But then again, I may be wrong but it should be like,
D- Lysergic acid methyl ester + HCl --> Lysergic acid which can then turned into LSD without any LSA to LSD fuss.

 

[thankyou888]

I'm a bit confused but I may be wrong. Why would hydrolysis of D-Lysergic acid methyl ester result in formation of LSA (AN AMIDE) rather than the simple Lysergic acid (Carboxylic acid). Because from what I've observed, when you react an ester with an acid like HCl it forms a carboxylic acid and not an amide. But then again, I may be wrong but it should be like,
D- Lysergic acid methyl ester + HCl --> Lysergic acid which can then turned into LSD without any LSA to LSD fuss.

ICchemistLSA is lysergic acid brother.
So you are talking just same thing. LSD is amide LSA is not amide it is just carboxylic acid. Convert lysergic acid to amide.

 

[ICchemist]

LSA is lysergic acid brother.
So you are talking just same thing. LSD is amide LSA is not amide it is just carboxylic acid. Convert lysergic acid to amide.

thankyou888Look up on the internet mate, Lysergic acid and LSA are two different molecules, Lysergic acid is a direct precursor to LSD-25, also it isn't an active compound and it's derived by hydrolysis of ergotamine. Whereas LSA is an active compound found in morning glory seeds and Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds. Just look it up on the internet, you'll know.

 

[thankyou888]

Look up on the internet mate, Lysergic acid and LSA are two different molecules, Lysergic acid is a direct precursor to LSD-25, also it isn't an active compound and it's derived by hydrolysis of ergotamine. Whereas LSA is an active compound found in morning glory seeds and Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds. Just look it up on the internet, you'll know.

ICchemist@ICchemist sorry it's my fault. Wherever I used LSA = Lysergic acid.

 

[ICchemist]

@ICchemist sorry it's my fault. Wherever I used LSA = Lysergic acid.

thankyou888It's alright mate, the main point is that this is fucking amazing, the fact that you can order a few grams of powder from china and turn it into thousands of doses of LSD. Would love to work with this chem one day.

 

[thankyou888]

It's alright mate, the main point is that this is fucking amazing, the fact that you can order a few grams of powder from china and turn it into thousands of doses of LSD. Would love to work with this chem one day.

ICchemistPerfect

 

[ICchemist]

Hydrolysis of D-Lysergic acid methyl ester with HCl for example will get d-lysergic acid amide(LSA) but you must be careful about temps and times with these products normally low temps and long times are used I don't have the exact numbers of it.
LSA as psychoactive effects by itself similar to LSD but you need bigger doses of LSA for similar effects of LSD.
About LSA into LSD I don't know the exact process but I can search it.
Is what I can help on it ;-)

btcboss2022I'm a bit confused but I may be wrong. Why would hydrolysis of D-Lysergic acid methyl ester result in formation of LSA (AN AMIDE) rather than the simple Lysergic acid (Carboxylic acid). Because from what I've observed, when you react an ester with an acid like HCl it forms a carboxylic acid and not an amide. But then again, I may be wrong but it should be like,
D- Lysergic acid methyl ester + HCl --> Lysergic acid which can then turned into LSD without any LSA to LSD fuss.

 

[kevin_smith_2]

Why don't use it as an end product and produce blotters from this product?

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

Why don't use it as an end product and produce blotters from this product?

kevin_smith_2While you can, the dosage regimen being simillar, it’s not a classic psychedelic, effects are mostly on cognition and mood along with body effects(often unpleasent), very weakly psychedelic visually.