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For et stykke tid siden fik jeg tilsendt et 5clad-kit fra et firma, men i stedet for 5bromopenten brugte de fluropenten, og det blev alligevel svagt, og når det blev nedbrudt i acetone, blev det hele bare hvidt. Så mit ideal var at bestille 5bromo og mere dmf og koge igen og forhåbentlig komme ud bedre. Hvad tænker du?
 

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Jeg tror, at problemet er et andet. Den fluorerede version burde ikke være et problem.
 

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Efter min ærlige mening er jeg overrasket over, at det overhovedet virkede, og mens et terminalt fluoratom er kendt for at virke i denne sammenhæng, kan bromid i det mindste være en (god) afgangsgruppe, men det er fluorid aldrig på grund af C-F-bindingens styrke. Dobbeltbindingen er reaktiv under andre forhold og kan derfor ikke være det bedste reaktionssted. Lav en lille batch med 5-brom-1-penten og se, om produktet bliver bedre ... hvidfarvningen ved kontakt med acetone indikerer klart, at produktet er anderledes, men i din optimistiske opfattelse kan jeg kalde det ufuldstændigt, fordi "halen" mangler som foreslået af det, du beskriver, og forklarer et stort fald i styrke. Du bør enten bruge 5-brom-1-penten eller 1-brom-5-pentan for at opnå en mere sandsynlig forbedring af kvaliteten. Jeg er ikke ekspert på netop dette område, men kemien giver en vis mening for mig, da jeg også finder det usædvanligt, at folk beskriver deres forberedende fejltagelser på en sådan reversibel måde. Jeg tror, at du enten vil ende med en bedre styrke, end den er, eller ingen væsentlig ændring, hvor jeg foreslår, at du ikke sælger det, da problemet langt fra er løst.
 

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It worked, the batch after recooking turned right color in solvent. Also, had a very good affect. Had a white residue at bottom but I’m going to say that was a bonding problem with first cook. 5-bromo should not be substituted with fluropentane. It’s just weak and create a different chemical that what attendended.
 

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if Fuoride was substituted as Bromide was intended to, you deserve some place in a decent journal publish about it. Instead the double bond reacted (most likely), which is also great for you and the anticipated product can't be else than potent by S.A.R. be careful with the side products though, (more potent is not necessarily more pure or safe). Cheers!
 

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A lot of these Chinese companies just send whatever, most are just selling without knowing exactly what they are selling. Look at the ingredients list and discovered an error in list prior to previous orders.
 

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Like one of those shops with a big advert saying "translate server error" instead the name of the shop in English
 

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I accidentally treated this as a joke when in fact it isn't that much to laugh about when knowing details of how some work as I tend not to perform any tests on my regular known materials unless something seems wrong to me.
 
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