question about 3cmc synth

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hello people, so i've been doing 3cmc synth with ethyl acetate and i'm acidifying freebase with water, 3cmc doesnt precipitate when acidifying freebase only for some reason... regardless, i was wondering whether it would be possible to add IPA before acidification in order to get clean crystals in one go, or would it ruin the reaction?
 

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Acetone/Hci or IPA
 

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It does not fall out while acidification...
The crystals form while evaporation from the water layer.
 

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I had also results with acidification in freebase only but were not as good as with water together and evaporate the water layer.
Recrystallisation after acidification should be possible but if the crystals are cleaner then, i can not say.
 

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Have you ever tried reaction with 2 solvents? Im gonna buy some nmp and try with nmp and ethyl acetate.. should be much more clean and more crystals
 

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What temperature did u use for ethyl acetate reaction?
 

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No temp control needed, just mix and stir for 20min... temp rises and falls from the reaction itself
 
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how much u get gram 3cmc form 2b3ch if u use ethyl acetate
 

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For every 100g you should get 75-80g 3cmc
 

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do u heat it ?
 

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how much dcm u use ?
 

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I've already answered the question myself: one, the temperature is too low, two, the proportions are wrong and there are probably other errors along the way, that's why you have such results
 

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ask expert on this forum
 

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Probs to much water init
 

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Upload the synthesis your following
 

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Im doing what jesse pinkman is doing in his post except im adding 5:1 ratio of ethyl acetate to 2b3c, im thinking of acidifying rm with less water and some ipa because right now I add same amount as rm and clearly its too much and slows down crystalization
 
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