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Been reading here for half a year and now that I see this I decided to create an account. Each time I wondered why the Netherlands as one of the bigger players in this field did not have its own section. Well done man!
 

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Good morning sir can you pls help me with a legit supplier of metonitazine I know it is band in this forum but pls sir help me
 

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Happy. I am working on new 5449 method, the powdered 5449 have only got 37% out with phosphorus anyone any idea what else it can be melted with. Have already heard citrcone acid and hydrochloric acid passed by.
 

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Would try with salt first, the cas number 5449 must be wrong. Must be a new product supplied under the old cas number. There have been more products in the past where only 30/35% came out.
 

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Wizard do you have formulas of bmk melting on phosphorus and on hydrochloric acid?
 

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Citric acid 25kg , 50kg BMK glycemic, 75ltr water no need for Hydrochloride Acid
If doing Luckart method!

scale down if needed
 

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Not in that order by the way citric and water heat till 60 oc then add powder BMK
 

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For the old 5449…
 

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Not for the new, if someone ff lets analyze it, and we know what it is would make it a lot easier....
 

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It’s new powder on old cas number it’s 25% my mate only my personal experience though
 

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Yes it is a new powder, they don’t want to give the cas number yet. You tried this powder? Also on other acids? In my experience different acids or quantity of acids can give different yields…
 

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EGPA ethyl 3-oxo-4-phenyl butyrate

Nothing more than a dark brown suspicion and otherwise perhaps EAPA the ethyl variant of MAPA
 

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Yes tried this new powder in the pretence was same old powder so done 200kg and ended up with 25% return so disappointing after such hard work
As for acids mate I just a street kid who showed a certain way never seen our method even mentioned on here but Lukart method with r own tweaks
 

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Well my dear friend my way cost me a whole pot of honey to learn and be shown, so it’s a bit of a sticky one really 🤔
 

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do you use phosphur still or on sulfur
 

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Phosphorus
 

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Is there any new substance that can replace 5449 (old version of sodium salt)?

Can you tell me the CAS or name of the new sodium salt?

I also want to get some and try to use the new version of sodium salt to make P2P
 
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