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Discussion: Alcohol & Ketamine

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Alcohol & Ketamine


Alcohol, also known as ethanol, is a central nervous system (CNS) depressant. This means it slows down the activity of the brain and spinal cord, leading to sedation, decreased anxiety, and muscle relaxation. Alcohol affects various neurotransmitters in the brain, which are chemicals that transmit signals between nerve cells.

Gamma-Aminobutyric Acid (GABA): Alcohol enhances the effects of GABA, an inhibitory neurotransmitter. This leads to feelings of relaxation, sedation, and decreased anxiety.

Glutamate: Alcohol inhibits the effects of glutamate, an excitatory neurotransmitter. This results in a further reduction in brain activity.

Interaction with Ligand-Gated Ion Channels: Alcohol has been shown to interact with specific ligand-gated ion channels in the brain, particularly the pentameric neurotransmitter receptors. These include Nicotinic Acetylcholine Receptors (nAChRs), GABAA Receptors (GABAA Rs), and Glycine Receptors (GlyRs). These receptors play crucial roles in neurotransmission, and their modulation by alcohol can lead to various behavioral effects.

Effects on Dopamine: Alcohol increases the release of dopamine in the brain's reward center. Dopamine is associated with pleasure, reward, and motivation. This is one reason why consuming alcohol can feel rewarding and pleasurable, leading to repeated consumption.

As alcohol levels rise in the bloodstream, individuals may experience feelings of euphoria, talkativeness, and increased sociability. However, higher levels can lead to impaired judgment, coordination issues, and slowed reflexes.


Ketamine primarily acts by blocking the N-methyl-D-aspartate (NMDA) receptors in the brain. The NMDA receptor is a type of glutamate receptor, and its blockade by ketamine leads to a decrease in neuronal excitability and synaptic transmission. This leads to effects such as analgesia, sedation, and altered perceptions of sight and sound.

While ketamine blocks NMDA receptors, it indirectly increases the release of glutamate in certain areas of the brain. This surge in glutamate can activate other types of glutamate receptors, such as the α-amino-3-hydroxy-5-methyl-4-isoxazolepropionic acid (AMPA) receptors, leading to various downstream effects.

Some studies suggest that ketamine may influence the brain's serotonergic system. For instance, ketamine has been shown to increase 5-HT1B receptor binding in certain brain regions, such as the nucleus accumbens and ventral pallidum. This interaction with the serotonergic system might contribute to its antidepressant effects.

At higher doses, ketamine can cause dissociative symptoms, leading to feelings of detachment from one's surroundings and oneself.


When alcohol and ketamine are taken together, their effects can be additive or even synergistic. This means the combined effects can be stronger than the sum of their individual effects. Both substances depress the central nervous system, which can lead to a profound state of sedation or unconsciousness.

Respiratory Depression: Both alcohol and ketamine can suppress the respiratory system. When taken together, there's an increased risk of respiratory depression, which can be life-threatening.

Increased Intoxication: The combined use can lead to a heightened state of intoxication, which can impair judgment, coordination, and reaction time. Both compounds can lead to unsteady movements and carry a significant danger of nausea and passing out. If someone loses consciousness while affected, there's a serious chance of inhaling vomit unless they are positioned safely in the recovery pose.

Dissociative Episodes: Ketamine alone can cause dissociative episodes and psychotic-like symptoms. Combining it with alcohol may intensify these effects.

Potential for Overdose: The sedative effects of both substances can be potentiated when used together, increasing the risk of overdose.

There are reports of individuals developing a dependence on ketamine, especially when used recreationally. Combining it with alcohol might increase the risk of developing a substance use disorder.

🔴 All things considered, we recommend avoiding this combination under any conditions.
 
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(Personally) (Self-Applied) I've Mixed Alcohol and Ketamine in The Past, Although it is Described As A Dangerous Combination, I Just Simply Felt The Best of Both Worlds, Details:

#1. Heart-Rate Seemed Normal For Basic Ketamine Use When Mixed With Alcohol. (Basic Use = Slightly Elevated)

#2. Ketamine High Felt The Same At The Same Dosage When Mixed With Alcohol, or Not.

#3. Alcohol-Based Euphoria Felt The Same At The Same (2 Corona Heavy) Limit When Mixed With Ketamine, or Not.

#4. Raspatory (Breathing) System Felt The Same When Consuming Ketamine, or Not.

#5. Raspatory (Breathing) System Felt The Same When Consuming Alcohol, or Not.

#6. Raspatory (Breathing) System Felt The Same When Mixing Ketamine + Alcohol, or Not.

#7. Nausea Level Was Unaffected By Use of Ketamine.

#8. Nausea Level Was Unaffected By Use of Alcohol. (As Common Drinker)

#9. Nausea Level Was Unaffected When Mixing Ketamine + Alcohol, or Not.

#10. When Ketamine + Alcohol Were Mixed, Both Euphoria's Were Just Merely Present Without Addition.

#11. After Weeks of Ketamine Use, One Psychotic Episode Occurred Resulting In 6 Months In Fresno Co. Jail.
(Only Caused By Lack of Fear/Depression, Anger Issues Still Remained Over Vandalism of My Beloved Pets Grave) (GRIEF)

Charges: (6 VIOLENT STRIKES) = x2 Attempted Murders, x1 Terrorist Threats, x1 Assault, x1 Dissuasion of A Witness, x1 Domestic Violence.

Evidence: Jail Identification (JID): 7117702. Booking Location: Fresno County Jail, 4C, NJ, Fresno California.
Judge: Kelly. Probation Officer: Yrigollen. Public Defender: Ed. Court Dept: Dept. #32. Inmate: Cody Ashmore.

(Harm Reduction) I Thought I Would Let You Guys Know This Before Continuous Ketamine Usage.
(Effects May Differentiate Between Users)
 

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(Personally) (Self-Applied) I've Mixed Alcohol and Ketamine in The Past, Although it is Described As A Dangerous Combination, I Just Simply Felt The Best of Both Worlds, Details:

#1. Heart-Rate Seemed Normal For Basic Ketamine Use When Mixed With Alcohol. (Basic Use = Slightly Elevated)

#2. Ketamine High Felt The Same At The Same Dosage When Mixed With Alcohol, or Not.

#3. Alcohol-Based Euphoria Felt The Same At The Same (2 Corona Heavy) Limit When Mixed With Ketamine, or Not.

#4. Raspatory (Breathing) System Felt The Same When Consuming Ketamine, or Not.

#5. Raspatory (Breathing) System Felt The Same When Consuming Alcohol, or Not.

#6. Raspatory (Breathing) System Felt The Same When Mixing Ketamine + Alcohol, or Not.

#7. Nausea Level Was Unaffected By Use of Ketamine.

#8. Nausea Level Was Unaffected By Use of Alcohol. (As Common Drinker)

#9. Nausea Level Was Unaffected When Mixing Ketamine + Alcohol, or Not.

#10. When Ketamine + Alcohol Were Mixed, Both Euphoria's Were Just Merely Present Without Addition.

#11. After Weeks of Ketamine Use, One Psychotic Episode Occurred Resulting In 6 Months In Fresno Co. Jail.
(Only Caused By Lack of Fear/Depression, Anger Issues Still Remained Over Vandalism of My Beloved Pets Grave) (GRIEF)

Charges: (6 VIOLENT STRIKES) = x2 Attempted Murders, x1 Terrorist Threats, x1 Assault, x1 Dissuasion of A Witness, x1 Domestic Violence.

Evidence: Jail Identification (JID): 7117702. Booking Location: Fresno County Jail, 4C, NJ, Fresno California.
Judge: Kelly. Probation Officer: Yrigollen. Public Defender: Ed. Court Dept: Dept. #32. Inmate: Cody Ashmore.

(Harm Reduction) I Thought I Would Let You Guys Know This Before Continuous Ketamine Usage.
(Effects May Differentiate Between Users)
CodyAshmoreThanks for sharing your experience, Cody
 
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