Harsh substance: 3-Me-PVP. Please take a look

[MethylAminoNH3]

Hi,(Info about the substance). Its a newly synthesised Pyrrolidino-phenone.
Info about the substance:
Trivial name: 3-Methyl-PVP
IUPAC: 1-(-3-methylphenyl)-2-pyrrolidin-1-yl-pentan-1-one
Its like alpha-pvp but with a methylgroup on the 3rd carbon position on the phenyl ring.

This batch is so much worse rearding harshness to your throat. I can barely vape it in a methpipe...

Its 100% homogenous, white fluffy powder. And htye are known for high-purity substances.
I have tried a re-x with distilled H20, but i couldnt get it back or make it crystallize. And im very skilled regarding re-x. Even the RC-vendor had issues recrystalllizing it when they were synthesising it.

I want to make it less harsh...

Chemicals I have at home:
HCl 30%
NaOH
Distilled H20

Glassware
Re-x dish
Glassbeakers x2
Temp meter
pH-meter

 

[Frit Buchner]

You're almost ready to do an A/B , just need to get that naptha, mineral spirits, kerosene ether or something non-polar. I don't know what would be best. You could run it through an e-nail/bong setup and see if that helps.
1. Get a bit wet and check the pH. It could be way off

 

[MethylAminoNH3]

You're almost ready to do an A/B , just need to get that naptha, mineral spirits, kerosene ether or something non-polar. I don't know what would be best. You could run it through an e-nail/bong setup and see if that helps.
1. Get a bit wet and check the pH. It could be way off

Frit BuchnerI try ur reply first.

My idea was to convert it fo freebase with NaOH and deionized water. And then add HCl 30% to make it HCl again, and then add Acetone to crash it out. Cuz I cant make HCl gas :/

Or do i need to clean the freebase before i turn it to HCl again?

 

[MethylAminoNH3]

You're almost ready to do an A/B , just need to get that naptha, mineral spirits, kerosene ether or something non-polar. I don't know what would be best. You could run it through an e-nail/bong setup and see if that helps.
1. Get a bit wet and check the pH. It could be way off

Frit BuchnerpH was 6-7

 

[Frit Buchner]

pH was 6-7

MethylAminoNH3Assuming you didn't use a ton of water, that seems high(too basic. I'll see what I can find out in 2 minutes

 

[Frit Buchner]

pH was 6-7

MethylAminoNH3You can heat HCl+H20 and as the H2O evaporates, HCl is liberated. Not the preferred method, but it's been done

 

[Frit Buchner]

I'm going to guess the base MIGHT be liquid at room temperature or a little more and would probably float and you could decant it off. Without taking anything away I have a hard time believing that neutralizing and acidifying would cause a net gain, every thing in it would just do whatever and then go back to how it was before. More or less
I would def. Shake the base with some water a time or two

 

[mdpv]

Please can you tell me how are the effects of this drug conpared to other pyros like a-PHP?

 

[loadingST]

best way to purify your pyro :

Dissolve in minimum 99.9 IPA (dryed beforehand) and put in frizer at -20C for 6-12h and filter, you will obtain most pure pyro you ever had, you can wash it with dry acetone on the filter too.