Methamphetamin sometimes makes tired...WHY?

DirkDiggler

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Sometimes I find that homemade methamphetamine makes me drowsy and tired.
Have any of you experienced something similar?
Is it really just a mental thing?
Or is there a mistake in the synthesis from MA via Pseudophedrine (from Pills), red Phosphor, Iodine...
 

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Yeah; you're probably tired

Even if you haven't been binging for hours and never miss a night of sleep, all amphetamines will ensure your sleep quality is garbage.

The body overpowers the mind very very quickly
 

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i sleep well and eat well... i think the reason for this is maybe the D and L Methamphetamin....
 

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You're right to suspect the D and L isomers. L-methamphetamine has minimal stimulant properties. It's more peripheral—used in Vicks inhalers, for example—and can actually feel sedating or foggy in higher amounts. If your synthesis isn't enantioselective (which it usually isn’t with standard red phosphorus + iodine reductions of ephedrine/pseudoephedrine), you can end up with:
  • A racemic mix (DL-methamphetamine), or
  • A higher proportion of the L-isomer, especially depending on how you sourced and handled your pseudoephedrine.
Pseudoephedrine usually yields mostly D-isomer, but impurities, poor reaction conditions, or overuse of heat and acidic conditions might racemize part of it. I am not a chemist and may be wrong in some points.

Even with decent D-meth:
By-products: Iodine, HI salts, red phosphorus residues, and solvent impurities (acetone, ether, etc.) can contaminate your final product. These impurities may not stimulate, and some can be CNS depressants or toxic—inducing nausea, brain fog, or fatigue.
Adrenal fatigue (controversial term, but real-world users describe it): Chronic overactivation of stress systems (HPA axis) can leave you feeling drained despite taking a stim.
Sleep debt: If you're pushing past multiple days without sleep, microsleeps and cognitive fatigue kick in no matter what. Not your case, given the data that you sleep well.

Tolerance can play a massive role here as well
Meth hits hard on the dopamine system—especially D1 and D2 receptors in the mesolimbic pathway (reward system). With repeated use:
  • Dopamine receptor density drops: Your brain downregulates (reduces) receptors because it's being flooded too often.
  • Dopamine transporter (DAT) efficiency changes: Reuptake slows or becomes dysfunctional, making dopamine clearance inconsistent.
  • Tyrosine hydroxylase downregulation: Your body slows the conversion of tyrosine → L-DOPA → dopamine.
At high tolerance, people often describe:
  • Stimulation without motivation
  • Tired but wired feeling—can’t sleep, but can’t function either
  • Anxiety + sedation mix—a paradox where you're strung out and lethargic
  • Delayed comedown—instead of an intense crash, it’s a flatline that starts creeping in while you're still high. That tiredness? Could be your body starting to crash before the high even finishes.
If you're also using other stims (Adderall, cocaine, caffeine), tolerance crosses over—your receptors adapt to all of them.
Even weed or benzos can blunt the stimulant edge if used concurrently or during comedown phases.

Managing or Resetting Tolerance
Full reversal takes time, but there are things you can do.

Short-Term
  • Supplement precursors: L-tyrosine, vitamin C, magnesium, and B6 can support dopamine synthesis.
  • Lower your dose or skip days: Even a few days off helps partially reset receptors.
  • Avoid binge patterns: Binging is the fastest way to fry your response.
Long-Term Neurorecovery
  • 2–4 weeks of abstinence can show partial dopamine receptor recovery.
  • Cardio (even walking) and protein-rich foods boost natural dopamine and receptor upregulation.
  • Sleep, sleep, sleep: Most dopamine restoration happens during REM and deep sleep phases.
I hope this helps
 

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I have noticed different phenomena, symptoms and effects of different experiences while using methamphetamine. It usually varies from product to product, not from dose to dose. In other words, the effect of a particular product, the same seller (same batch?) was pretty consistent compared to using different meth and having a wider scope of experience.

I used to use consistently for about a year straight where I would be up 3/4 days and sleep and then do it again. Tolerance and everything would build up until I slept and then it would reset. I would use a gram over the 3/4 days or so. The first dose gets you high and then you maintain it with consistent redosing is usually how it goes. I would never dose and then be able to sleep without using more if I had it, I always binged and stayed awake using until it was gone.

It wasn't until I had larger amounts and different batches from other dealers that I started noticing these paradoxes. I would smoke a bowl and fall asleep a few hours later, despite being stimmed. I've fallen asleep being while being high and paranoid and looking out the window. It is like, after you keep going and going and going, being up for days, and keep binging again as soon as you wake up, after there is nothing in your body to give, this is when the paranoia really sets in and you are just getting the stimulation and anxiety effects and no euphoria or anything. This is when your body is really trying to let you know - Hey! We did enough meth for the next year. It is time to stop. Making the switch from daily use of street fentanyl to methadone clinic probably had a bit to do with it all also, among other variables.
 
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I imagine this is where alot of the new users come and complain about having a bad or fake product or that is isn't "pure d meth" or whatever that they got from a vendor. Then come and complain about being sold garbage or false advertising when they've been smoking all the ice, crack and whatever else alongside popping amphetamine and 'molly' capsules.
 
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