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2C-x Why Isn't 2CB Popular In The US?

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Granted I've never tried it, but it seems like a good candidate for commercial distribution.

One, the synthesis is relatively easy. The hardest part is the bromination, and with a little trial and error, it wouldn't be too hard to synthesize. One could use N-bromosuccinimide and probably make it easier on the chemist.

I've seen the nitrostyrene for sale, at a price of about 600 to 800 a kilo. Granted this was a few years ago. Even the benzaldehyde probably won't be much more expensive.

Two, it is potent. One dosage is about 15 to 20 milligrams. That means it could be made affordable for the customer, say 10 a pill for consumers. Maybe cheaper, idk. But say 10 a pill. That's 50 pills to a gram, or 500 a gram retail, or roughly 50k a kilo retail. Not many other drugs match that. Plus the pills could be made very small, better for distribution and discretion. Or if powder, grams can distributed at the retail level for say 100 to 200 a gram, still lots of money, and it makes it incredibly easy to hide for the distributor.

Three, it doesnt have nearly the tolerance issue that other psychedelics have. Many people report that tolerance is minimal, and that you can dose several days in a row with minimal tolerance. Perfect for festivals.

However, the down sides are that it is still a psychedelic, and psychedelics are often unpredictable. 2cb is also known for a body load, aka nausea and feeling ill in general. More so than say MDMA anyway.

I'm just surprised this hasnt taken off in the US. It's be super easy for an enterprising group to synthesize maybe a few hundred grams, distribute it to a few groups across the country, and it would practically boom over night.

What do you guys think?
 

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Yeah I never had been into psychedelics, but I'm guessing the nausea isn't a big selling point. Maybe a lot of people just don't know about it
 

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It actually is big if anyone has any in the US hit me up
 

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Probably a bit steep but I can verify the seller, to you it's probably 2-3days. I could get a referral but I had to request the code, so I don't have it yet
 

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I hope that's for 10 pills, and not just 1 lol.
 

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X5 means it's for 5 pills. He sells more bulk amounts, but I said it was high. It's the price you pay for not importing it. His stealth is good. if not, I'd be having a tense conversation with the police right now. Just got a priority box, totally mashed and open on the end. Look right in it.
 

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Just buy from eu vendors , American drugs are stuck in 80s
 

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Nitrostyrene currently sells for US$800-900 in China ,The US will only be more expensive
 

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So likely one could produce a kilo for a few grand, say 5 on the expensive side, for 50k individual doses, 20 mg a pill

Seems worth it
 
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The profit is indeed considerable. I guess it is because the processing is too difficult that not many people do it.
 

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I'm not a chemist, but it truly seems like a pretty easy synthesis, compared to amphetamines at least. Maybe more technically difficult in a few areas, but really not that bad.

If one buys the nitrostyrene, it is a simple amalgam reduction away from the phenethylamine, then bromination. Bromination could be tricky, but that's what n-bromosuccinimide is for. All it would take is processing a kilo or two of nitrostyrene over time to have enough product for quite some time.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone on here would be able to guide one through a larger scale synthesis and/or design one, for the right price of course.

Honestly, I think the drug is mostly a psychedelic, and those can be much less "easy" to do than say mdma. Thus it being unpopular/unknown.
 

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What is prone to explosion?

Not sure what you mean.
 

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Psychedelics in general, are not very recreational imo. I used to grow mushrooms and once all your friends have had some and thier friends have had some, I couldn't even give them away
 

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Very good point.

Things like mdma, amphetamines, cocaine, all are mentally easy and don't have as many side effects imo. At least side effects that require "work". Nausea during psychedelia is a mind fuck, but during opiate usage, or amphetamines, is easily ignored or otherwise tolerated.

Plus, psychedelics have atolerance, minus 2cb it seems. Take them one time, you need to take a fair amount more to get similar effects. Mdma kind of works like this, but other traditional drugs do not, you can use them every day.
 
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