Search for Tilidin (Opioid) synthesis

[mel0]

Hi I researched a lot about more weaker opioids (Tramadol, Codein and particularly Tilidin). Tilidin is a an opioid only deployed in germany and switzerland. I found synthesis instructions on Tramadol and G.Patton posted a synthesis instruction on Tramadol approximately one hour ago. I am very thankful for that. Despite of the research I did, I have not found a public synthesis instruction on Tilidin (including the amounts of the individual chemicals). If anyone could help me with that I would be very thankful.
Thank you for reading.

 

[JustFuckMyShitUpFam]

I am not from Germany but do live in western EU, and happen to have gotten my hands on this chem. For someone with a very high tolerance extremely useless but I just wanted to have it for the novelty

I love to collect these kinda rarer drugs like some kind of autist. What I do not understand is that a lot of people claim its euphoria is supposed to be on Oxycodone’s level, but how is that possible when every pill has suboxone (bubreprenorphine or how it is spelled xd in it aswell (in order to be addict/“junkie” proof)

Very weird drug tbh.

 

[mel0]

Hi i‘ve never heard that Tilidin and Oxycodone have the same euphoria and from my own opinion this is completely wrong.
The suboxone you mentioned belongs to a class of combination drugs/medicine that include an opioid and naloxone also known as narcan. The naloxone has the effect of reducing overdoses i.e death. The usefulness of naloxone in Tilidin in my opinion is 0 because of the already very low
respiratory depression inducing effects. Every Tilidin product HAS to include naloxone, it also only has strong effects in higher dosis meaning it will prevent overdoses but also keep the analgetic effects of the Tilidin. It really isn’t usefull for people with high tolerance. but for „normal“ people it gets them the feeling of an opioid without having to think they're a junkie. Also important to note Tilidin is extremely popular in germany due to the rap scene and there are way more poeple that are willing to buy and consume it unlike heroin or fentanyl.

 

[Alojz]

Can you post a contribution to the production of tilidine

 

[middlemaneu]

Tilidine is the closest "similar" meds ready-to-go to Oxycodone (unless you can still find hydrocodone without paracetamol or ibuprofen mixed inside, or, lucky find, oxymorphone - nice stimulation, good euphoria, average pain killer. Better than Tapentadol, since the high is more stable and last longer.
But, it lacks the "lifestyle" effect of oxycodone, and you can't really snort it, nor nodding out of it. Well, you can technically, but be ready to trip the fuck out, since it start to hit the Kappa receptors already after 300-400mg.

Said this, there was an attempt of Iso-Tilidine as RC, but ended up not being active.
Nortilidine was probably the most successful RC attempt, and I think is not even banned in most countries? It made a short appearance in Germany and Poland, but for odd reasons, it never took off or was synthesized again for the RC market scene. Maybe because not "famous" enough, maybe because even a lower Kappa max. Mg trigger, maybe because of its production costs. Sadly I don't have the synth route for it, sorry :]