Synthesis of N,N dimethyltryptamine freebase via Fischer Indole (with photos of the process and a video)

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1. A medium sized magnetic stir bar was inserted into a 500 mL RBG flask. 18 g of phenylhydrazine HCl was dissolved in 250 ml of deionized water in a 500 mL 3 neck 24/40 joint RBF, which is put onto a heating mantel that acts as a magnetic stirrer. Neck 1 had a rubber septum, neck 2 had a thermometer, in a glass 24/20 adapter, and was connected to the heating mantel. And neck 3 had a reflux condenser connected to a water circulator.

2. 4 balloons were charged with nitrogen, attached to the end of a 20 mL syringe (with no plug). An 18 gauge needle was attached to the syringe and the syringe set up was inserted into a solid piece of rubber for later use.

3. The RBF was charged with nitrogen by inserting the syringe (with a nitrogen balloon at the end) into neck 1. The heating mantel was set to 32 'C. and the magnetic stir bar was set to medium-high stirring level.

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4. A 10 mL syringe was filled with 7.2 mL concentrated sulfuric acid and a 18 gauge needle was attached to the syringe. The syringe with sulfuric acid was inserted into the rubber septum on neck 1. The sulfuric acid was slowly added to the suspension, under a nitrogen environment, over 10 minutes while maintaining the temperature below 40'C. .

5. The solution (light orange color) is heated to 37'C and stirred for additional 10 mins.

6. A solution of 25 g of 4-(N,N-dimethylamino)butanal diethyl acetal in 90 mL of acetonitrile was prepared in a 250 mL beaker.

7. The rubber septum on neck 1 was detached and a 100 mL addition funnel was added. The 4-(N,N-dimethylamino) butanal diethyl acetalsolutionin acetonitrile was added to the addition funnel. The rubber septum, with the nitrogen balloon still attached, was inserted on top of the addition funnel.

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8. Once step 5 was completed, After 10 mins, the 4-(N,N-dimethylamino) butanal diethyl acetalsolutionin acetonitrile solution was added dropwise over 60 mins, while temperature is maintained at 37'C. After addition, addition funnel is rinsed with acetonitrile(about 30ml) and added dropwise to the reactor.

9. The contents were stirred for 4 hrs while temperature is maintained at 40'C.

10. To the acidic solution in the RBF, 100ml of NaOH solution (4M) was added dropwise while maintaining the temperature at 20~25'C. The RBF flask was periodically put into a cold bath if the temperature reached 25'C. The pH of the solution was 11 after the NaOH was added and the suspension was milky.
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11. The suspension in the RBF suspension is extracted with 3* 200 DCM




12, The organic layers are combined and put into a vacuum oven at 30 'C with a negative pressure of -30 mm hg. The final product was left in the vacuum oven for 48 hours, in order to ensure all solvent is evaporated.

13. After 48 hours, the final product formed light orange crystals and some light orange residue.

14. The crude freebase was dissolved in acetone (200 mL) and poured through a pad of silica (230–400 mesh, 100 g). The pad was eluted with acetone/MeOH (9:1, 2 L). The combined filtrates were put back into the vacuum oven at 30 'C for 24 hours. 30 'C. The final product had a mass of 15.45 g of purified N,N DMT freebase as a concentrated to provide 15.45 g of purified N,N DMT freebase (56.8% yield) as a yellow-reddish oil with yellow crystals that formed around the oil.


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15. Melting point was 45-47 'C, which corresponds to a combination of DMT polymorph I and II.

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Isolated N,N DMT crystals!
 
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this is really clear, correct and well described in every rellevant detail, congratulations and thank you for sharing this with us! I wonder if by any chance N-Me,N-iPr-aminobutyl-diethylacetal is commercially available, but no high hopes since only N-Me-isopropylamine is offensivly expensive according to standard vendors.
 

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Can I use something else instead of acetonitrile? What should I use?
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Well, you want to use a solvent that:

A. Dissolves the 4-(N,N-dimethylamino) butanal diethyl acetal

B. Similar partition coefficients (Log P)

C. Miscible with water, you will be added an aq soln of NaOH and then extracting with DCM

D. Low hygroscopic properties (low moisture content)

E. Has no unwanted reactions with sulphuric acid


you have the choices of ethyl acetate, chloroform, ethanol, methanol, acetonitrile or dmso

ethyl acetate and chloroform are a no go since they are immiscible with water. Ethanol and methanol tend to be more hygroscopic than Acetonitrile and may react with the precursor.
DMSO may intrudixe additional complexity by its eventual removal in the workup, due to its high boiling point.

Remember, you are adding the 4-(N,N-dimethylamino) butanal diethyl acetal solution to concentrated sulphuric. Ethanol in the presence of concentrated sulfuric acid produces ethane, methanol produces methane. As long as you are using concentrated sulfuric scid, hydrolysis of ACN won’t occur.

Therefore, I would not deviate away from ACN

It’s a solvent easy to find, either on Amazon or eBay. If the vendor doesn’t provide a certificate of analysis, distill to remove water and then add some anhydrous sodium sulfate and filter off the sodium sulfate.

hope this helps.
 

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This is such beautiful chemistry but it’s so much more complicated than the double methylation of tryptamine, for your average chemist - granted, I’m still waiting for my vacuum chamber to come tomorrow - we don’t all have fancy vacuum ovens! Haha jk - it’s all in jest coz im jealous!
To be fair, my oil I ended up with is a similar colour and also the final extract, you did with DCM was pretty much the same colour as mine also.
The silica pad is cool also but yeah not v accessible.
Annoyingly n,n-DMT is what got me interested in organic chemistry instead of extraction and now I know 6 months worth of daily knowledge and learning…I can safely say I wish I’d started with the Henry reaction on substituted aldehydes to PEA’s or even Psychedelic Amphetamines…
Maybe even a gram or two of racemic amphetamine first…just to get the ball rolling and the adhd under control! Haha
 
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