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Breaking Bad Precursores legales

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Según el código de reglamentos federales
Los siguientes productos químicos han sido designados específicamente por el Administrador de la Administración para el Control de Drogas como los productos químicos enumerados sujetos a las disposiciones de esta parte y las partes 1309 y 1313 de este capítulo. A cada sustancia química se le ha asignado el número de código químico de la DEA que figura al lado.


(a) Sustancias químicas de la Lista I
(1) Alfa-fenilacetoacetonitrilo y sus sales, isómeros ópticos y sales de isómeros ópticos (APAAN)8512
(2) Ácido antranílico, sus ésteres y sus sales8530
(3) Cianuro de bencilo8735
(4) Efedrina, sus sales, isómeros ópticos y sales de isómeros ópticos8113
(5) Ergonovina y sus sales8675
(6) Ergotamina y sus sales8676
(7) Ácido N-acetilantranílico, sus ésteres y sus sales8522
(8) Norpseudoefedrina, sus sales, isómeros ópticos y sales de isómeros ópticos8317
(9) Ácido fenilacético, sus ésteres y sus sales8791
(10) Fenilpropanolamina, sus sales, isómeros ópticos y sales de isómeros ópticos1225
(11) Piperidina y sus sales2704
(12) Pseudoefedrina, sus sales, isómeros ópticos y sales de isómeros ópticos8112
(13) 3,4-metilendioxifenil-2-propanona8502
(14) Metilamina y sus sales8520
(15) Etilamina y sus sales8678
(16) Anhídrido propiónico8328
(17) Isosafrol8704
(18) Safrol8323
(19) Piperonal8750
(20) N-metilefedrina, sus sales, isómeros ópticos y sales de isómeros ópticos (N-metilefedrina)8115
(21) N-Metilpseudoefedrina, sus sales, isómeros ópticos y sales de isómeros ópticos8119
(22) Ácido hidriódico6695
(23) Benzaldehído8256
(24) Nitroetano6724
(25) Gamma-Butirolactona (Otros nombres incluyen: GBL; Dihidro-2 (3H)-furanona; 1,2-Butanolida; 1,4-Butanolida; lactona del ácido 4-hidroxibutanoico; lactona del ácido gamma-hidroxibutírico)2011
(26) Fósforo rojo6795
(27) Fósforo blanco (Otros nombres: fósforo amarillo)6796
(28) Ácido hipofosforoso y sus sales (Incluidos el hipofosfito de amonio, el hipofosfito de calcio, el hipofosfito de hierro, el hipofosfito de potasio, el hipofosfito de manganeso, el hipofosfito de magnesio y el hipofosfito de sodio)6797
(29) N-fenetil-4-piperidona (NPP)8332
(30) Yodo6699
(31) Ergocristina y sus sales8612
(32)N-(1-bencilpiperidin-4-il)-N-fenilpropionamida(bencilfentanilo) y sus sales8334
(33) N-fenilpiperidin-4-amina(4-anilinopiperidina; N-fenil-4-piperidinamina; 4-AP), sus amidas, sus carbamatos, sus halogenuros, sus sales y cualquier combinación de los mismos, siempre que sea posible su existencia8335
(34) 3,4-MDP-2-P metilglicidato (glicidato de PMK) y sus isómeros ópticos y geométricos8535
(35) ácido 3,4-MDP-2-P metilglicidico (ácido PMK glicidico) y sus sales, isómeros ópticos y geométricos y sales de isómeros 8525
(36) Alfa-fenilacetoacetamida (APAA) y sus isómeros ópticos8515
(37) Alfa-fenilacetoacetato de metilo (MAPA; 3-oxo-2-fenilbutanoato de metilo) y sus isómeros ópticos8795
(38) la 4-piperidona (piperidin-4-ona), sus acetales, sus amidas, sus carbamatos, sus sales y las sales de sus acetales, de sus amidas y de sus carbamatos, así como cualquier combinación de los mismos, siempre que la existencia de éstos sea posible.8330
(39) 1-boc-4-AP(4-(fenilamino)piperidina-1-carboxilato deterc-butilo) y sus sales8336

(b) Sustancias químicas de la lista II:
(1) Anhídrido acético8519
(2) Acetona6532
(3) Cloruro de bencilo8570
(4) Éter etílico6584
(5) Permanganato de potasio6579
(6) 2-Butanona (o metiletilcetona o MEK)6714
(7) Tolueno6594
(8) Ácido clorhídrico (incluido el cloruro de hidrógeno anhidro)6545
(9) Ácido sulfúrico6552
(10) Metil isobutil cetona (MIBK)6715
(11) Permanganato de sodio6588

fuente: https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-21/chapter-II/part-1310/section-1310.02

Actualmente, los precursores para la síntesis de mefedrona, a-PVP, cannabinoides e incluso algunas fuentes de BMK son legales.

Al mismo tiempo, no encontramos proveedores de reactivos en el mercado negro. Y hay pocos laboratorios que se dediquen a la síntesis de sustancias acabadas.

Nuestro proyecto está listo para ayudar a los equipos de entrar en el mercado gris de precursores, podemos proporcionar las consultas necesarias, recomendar proveedores de Asia, así como ayudar a establecer la síntesis de precursores.

También invitamos a todos los interesados a discutir este tema.
 

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Bueno he estado estudiando el mercado y Americzms están perdiendo sus mentes para conseguir sus manos en a-pvp y 4mmc. Los factores limitantes son la pirrolidina y la metilamina respectivamente (ambos de la lista 2).
 

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La pirrolidina no la veo en la lista.
Y en cuanto a la metilamina, tengo una pregunta, ¿existe una concentración legal?
 

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Muy bueno, gracias por la lista :]
 

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Parece que no me queda nada por vender.
 

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Gracias por la elaboración
 

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I am trying to synthesis
N-Phenethyl-Piperidone (NPP)
Already tried for it in my lab, but I failed
Anyone please help me..
 

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Nah.
Usa will seize much more chemicals shipped to usa from china doesnt matter if they are on this list or no.
 

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I know why you can't become major drug lords. This is not meant to disrespect you, but it's a lack of wisdom; I can only say you are small-time dealers. Unfortunately, I can't reveal more. I can only silently watch you waste your time. In terms of cost and life, you are not worth it. Once again, I mean no disrespect."
 

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Indeed kettle. It seems lack of wisdom caused you to make this post, no offense. perhaps you could do some research?
 

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I saw a couple of benign seeming chemicals yesterday on Alibaba,mand when I looked up the cas# and the wire model, I said" hmm, that sure looks a lot like aminorex or 4-mar. Some others were indole derivatives, and 3,5 methylene-dioxy phenylethlamines, looking like 1 legged frogs and shit i sure would like to come across a route to 4-mar or similar that didn't involve the unobtainium ( I forget what it even is, but it's a cyanide derivative) or something from betel nuts that isn't paxil
 

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Only relevant to the US.

I'm no lawyer, but the analogue act only applies to schedule 1 and 2 chemicals.

So if it is lower schedule, or any other list, a simple change from say a chemical with a methyl group, to an ethyl group, should make it legal.

For example, sold here is 1,3-Benzodioxole-5-acetic acid, α-acetyl-, methyl ester. It is now on the DEA Special Surveillance List, which means they consider it used for drug production. However, theoretically, if you had the ethyl Ester, or 1,3-Benzodioxole-5-acetic acid, α-acetyl-, ethyl ester, then you might have a chance at getting away with it.

Granted, the US authorities aren't exactly known for doing legal things or their good practices....

I'm more interested in the MDMA precursors, and there is still a fair amount of theoretical wiggle room for legal precursors. If you just look at the precursors for p2p, there are likely ones that can be produced for mdma as well.

If the chemical is not listed anywhere, you are safest. There are few that aren't listed, like I think the ethyl Ester I mentioned, and diacetylphenyl malonate (p2p) are not listed. Not much else isn't.

We have probably another 4 or 5 years before more are added, stock up while you can.
 

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I agree about the analog act only aspllying to schedule one and 2, but in other parts of the literature it talks about intent and if the person possesing such material BELIEVES it is a cns acting drug, even if it is not, it is considered a drug. There's been talk about the ambiguity of the act and it's enforeability (between lawyers and judges, not between people on a drug chemistry board) but I'd hate to be the one to find out. I actually founf several aminorex analogs for saile on black ops, several other very desireable and hard to find chemicals too. A-pvp at $600/ounce, which isright at the top of the price point imo, but just to even have it...
 

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seems to me indole-3-carbaldehyde or some other aldehyde and MEK aught to land you at MDp2p. I've thought about it for exactly 5 seconds, but it seems logical and something doable(parellel to benzaldehyde +mek=p2p)
 
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