Question Mõned küsimused seoses kokaiiniga ja selle lõikamisega

[sorcerer]

Hei, poisid,
see on minu esimene postitus ja ma loodan, et ma ei ole jätnud seda küsimust juba kusagil mujal vastatud. Tänud ette igasuguse abi eest ja selle foorumi eest üldiselt, on tõeline rõõm läbida kogu seda kvaliteetset sisu siin foorumis!

Nüüd minu küsimus/probleem. Õnneks nagu mina ja mu sõbrad on, saime näha ja kasutada kokaiini Kolumbias, tõesti head kokaiini usaldusväärsest allikast. Mina olen pigem juhuslik kokaiinikasutaja ja teen ainult väga head kokaiini Euroopa standarditele. Enne Colombia külastamist oli nn "kalaskaala" minu lemmik, see nägi mahlakas välja ja iga test, mida ma tegin (kiirtestid ja ka energia-kontroll) ütles mulle, et see on väga puhas (ma olen saatnud energia-kontrolliproovid, mis sisaldasid 85-95% kokaiini, kus ei leitud mingeid kärpeid - vähemalt mitte aktiivseid või teadaolevaid kärpeid). Ma olin väga rahul, ka minu kliendid ja kõik teised kvaliteedi üle.

Kolumbias nägime aga ka seda kalakalakokaiini, kuid minu tähelepanu köitis rohkem matt kokaiin, mis ei näinudki nii väga välja nagu kalakalakokaiin. See oli hoopis puhtam. Meil on üks Kolumbia sõber, kes ei tegele eriti äriga, aga ütleb ka, et on mingi erinevus, mis mõjutab peamiselt Euroopa kokaiini (või üldse iga eksporditavat kokaiini). Ma tõesti ei tahtnud seda uskuda, kuigi teadsin, et midagi on viltu.

Paar päeva tagasi otsisin infot selle kohta ja leidsin Ühendkuningriigis müüja, kes täpselt seda kraami müüb, mis tundub olevat lõigatud. Ta nimetab seda "imitaatideks", nad peaksid tegema kokaiini nagu kalaskaala, mida kõik tahavad ja millel on ka samad mõjud + see võib suurendada kõrgaineid. Samuti reklaamivad nad seda kui energiakontrolliga tuvastamatut ja ka pärast pesu peaks olema veel 80-90% kogu tootest alles, kui seda 1:1 lõigata. Nad pakuvad ka midagi, mida nimetatakse supermixiks. Ja palju muid kärpeid, et manipuleerida kokaiini optikat rohkem Euroopas soositud stiiliks.

Me andsime baseritele natuke meie lõikamata kraami, nad olid šokeeritud ja ütlesid meile, et juba ammu pole neil olnud nii puhast uimastust. Nii et minu küsimused on järgmised:

Kas kellelgi on aimu, mida täpselt nad kasutavad lõigatud?
Kuidas nad saavutavad kalaskaala välimuse?
Kuidas saab kokaiinipesu ei pese, et lõikab välja?
Miks ei suuda energiakontroll seda tuvastada?

Või olen ma lihtsalt idioot? Ma loodan, et mitte, aga äkki te oskate mulle öelda haha

Lugupidamisega, võlur

 

[sorcerer]

Täname. Kõlab isegi loogiliselt sellise inimese jaoks nagu mina, kes ei ole eriti huvitatud keemiast.

 

[blackayzen]

aux pays bas en particulier a rotterdam ont trouve facilement des produits de coupe comme : la mix,supermix,levimasole,mannitol,turbo,lydocaine,isotonol,et il ya une coupe qui coute assez chere qui a le nom de colombiana cest la plus tendance mais cher 3500 a 4000€ le kg si quelqun serait comment lave a lacetone avec un tuto ou des explication ca serait vraiment cool a la communauté

 

[blackayzen]

in the Netherlands, especially in Rotterdam, you can easily find cutting products like: mix, supermix, levimasole, mannitol, turbo, lydocaine, isotonol, and there is a cut that is quite expensive called Colombiana, it is the most trendy but expensive 3500 to 4000€ per kg if anyone knows how to wash with lacetone with a tutorial or explanations that would be really cool for the community

 

[Loki12]

Before any one of you dumbos tries the cuts that he listed, just so you know, almost all of them can be detected by experienced dealers and junkies. I hope one of you tries and gets the shit kicked out of them, because this is such a plague in the coke community that it is not even funny.

100% pure cocaine only needs relatively tight space, some water to pull (even from atmosphere) and it will clump up by itself.. if you start adding the cuts this guy listed, not only will you lose customers (trust me, half of the things he listed do not even behave like cocaine and I am talking about tests you can do in the field with no special instruments), but you will never get it to shine like the fishscale you want.

 

[blackayzen]

of course it is better to sell it and consume it pure and not touch it but I was only responding to a post on this subject I would list a little what I saw after everyone is free to do what they want

 

[mycelium]

You use a little sieve to sift the coca

You put a plate in the microwave for 20 seconds.
Put the coke on the plate
Use a razor
Add it to the microwave on the plate for 10 seconds if you need it but heating the plate first somehow makes it drier.

Coke on East coast is damper than West Coast
Coke in Cartagena is oh so amazing, cheap, clean, etc.

Don't dilute the purity you have, if anything clean it up.

 

[Loki12]

Heat plating is used since cocaine is very hygroscopic. If left out, it will form nice fishscale rocks, but it will also retain moisture - to put it up your nose and have it absorb nicely, you heat up a plate in the microwave, take it out like you said and put the coke on it and finely chop it up with a razor - it should get rid of the residual water.

Another reason that it could be damp if it was washed/cut/synthesized and not properly dried after from the solvent - in this case you also want to put it on a heated plate.

Third reason is some bricks were either made by amateurs or hurried along and there are oils remaining in the coca - after washing the solvent will evaporate and you will be left with oily yellowish to brownish residue - a very small amount, for an ounce it will be a couple drops, however this also makes the cocaine "damp", sometimes even unable to lump up and "crystallize" and for the average user putting it on a heated plate will allow the oils to dry up, so that they can snort their product.

 

[blackayzen]

by drying the cocaine of its moisture it will lose its weight? and on a larger quantity the process is the same?

 

[Loki12]

Well the answer is of course to both of these... YES. The weight is marginal really, few ounces, playing this, you will be wasting time instead of selling it right away. The process really only changes in very large amounts, where you can actually speed it up by dropping just a few drops of distilled water or spraying a few times distilled water on top of a kilogram and wrap this back up tightly to speed the process up. If you do it with less, you will use one drop of distilled water and reduce almost a gram of cocaine salt into a puddle that takes forever to dry by itself.. you need to have enough product to create a nice pillow under the product that will immediately dissolve and for the product to have enough bulk to later pull this humidity and absorb it rather quick - it would most likely be a bad look selling cocaine that is half wet...

At least this is how I do it.. but like I said, this is regarding pure cocaine. I said in another thread - this is not rocket science. There is no two methods to make cocaine hcl, for one to be dry immediately and the other immediately one big rock, it's just the salt absorbing water, forms beautiful patterns...


Now maybe if I was Pablo Escobar level and I needed to satisfy someone and make it rock and not powder, even though I sell the product pure.. (read and realize how ridiculous this sounds even...) maybe I would experiment with some sort of chamber where you can pass humidity into at a controlled pace? Just an idea..