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Pagal federalinių taisyklių kodeksą
Narkotikų kontrolės administracijos administratorius specialiai nurodė šias chemines medžiagas kaip išvardytas chemines medžiagas, kurioms taikomos šios dalies ir šio skyriaus 1309 ir 1313 dalių nuostatos. Kiekvienai cheminei medžiagai priskirtas priešais ją nurodytas DEA cheminio kodo numeris.


(a) I sąrašo cheminės medžiagos
(1) Alfa-fenilacetonitrilas ir jo druskos, optiniai izomerai ir optinių izomerų druskos (APAAN)8512
(2) Antranilo rūgštis, jos esteriai ir druskos8530
(3) Benzilo cianidas8735
(4) Efedrinas, jo druskos, optiniai izomerai ir optinių izomerų druskos8113
(5) Ergonovinas ir jo druskos8675
(6) Ergotaminas ir jo druskos8676
(7) N-acetilantranilo rūgštis, jos esteriai ir druskos8522
(8) Norpseudoefedrinas, jo druskos, optiniai izomerai ir optinių izomerų druskos8317
(9) Fenilacto rūgštis, jos esteriai ir druskos8791
(10) Fenilpropanolaminas, jo druskos, optiniai izomerai ir optinių izomerų druskos1225
(11) Piperidinas ir jo druskos2704
(12) Pseudoefedrinas, jo druskos, optiniai izomerai ir optinių izomerų druskos8112
(13) 3,4-metilendioksifenil-2-propanonas8502
(14) Metilaminas ir jo druskos8520
(15) Etilaminas ir jo druskos8678
(16) Propiono anhidridas8328
(17) Izosafrolas8704
(18) Safrolas8323
(19) Piperonalas8750
(20) N-metilefedrinas, jo druskos, optiniai izomerai ir optinių izomerų druskos (N-metilefedrinas)8115
(21) N-metilpseudoefedrinas, jo druskos, optiniai izomerai ir optinių izomerų druskos8119
(22) Hidriodinė rūgštis6695
(23) Benzaldehidas8256
(24) Nitroetanas6724
(25) gama-butirolaktonas (Kiti pavadinimai: GBL; dihidro-2 (3H)-furanonas; 1,2-butanolidas; 1,4-butanolidas; 4-hidroksibutano rūgšties laktonas; gama-hidroksibutano rūgšties laktonas)2011
(26) Raudonasis fosforas6795
(27) Baltasis fosforas (kiti pavadinimai: geltonasis fosforas)6796
(28) Hipofosforo rūgštis ir jos druskos (įskaitant amonio hipofosfitą, kalcio hipofosfitą, geležies hipofosfitą, kalio hipofosfitą, mangano hipofosfitą, magnio hipofosfitą ir natrio hipofosfitą)6797
(29) N-fenetil-4-piperidonas (NPP)8332
(30) jodas6699
(31) Ergokristinas ir jo druskos8612
(32) N-(1-benzilpiperidin-4-il)-N-fenilpropionamidas(benzilfentanilis) ir jo druskos8334
(33) N-fenilpiperidin-4-aminas(4-anilinopiperidinas; N-fenil-4-piperidinaminas; 4-AP), jo amidai, karbamatai, halogenidai, druskos ir bet kokie jų deriniai, kai tik įmanoma juos gauti8335
(34) 3,4-MDP-2-P metilglicidatas (PMK glicidatas) ir jo optiniai bei geometriniai izomerai8535
(35) 3,4-MDP-2-P metilglicidinė rūgštis (PMK glicidinė rūgštis) ir jos druskos, optiniai ir geometriniai izomerai bei izomerų druskos 8525
(36) Alfa-fenilacetoacetamidas (APAA) ir jo optiniai izomerai8515
(37) metilo alfa-fenilacetoacetatas(MAPA; metil-3-okso-2-fenilbutanoatas) ir jo optiniai izomerai8795
(38) 4-piperidonas (piperidin-4-onas), jo acetalai, amidai, karbamatai, druskos, acetalų, amidų ir karbamatų druskos ir bet kokie jų deriniai, kai tik įmanoma juos gauti.8330
(39) 1-boc-4-AP(terc-butil 4-(fenilamino)piperidin-1-karboksilatas) ir jo druskos8336

(b) II sąrašo cheminės medžiagos:
(1) acto rūgšties anhidridas8519
(2) acetonas6532
(3) Benzilo chloridas8570
(4) Etilo eteris6584
(5) Kalio permanganatas6579
(6) 2-butanonas (arba metiletilketonas, arba MEK)6714
(7) Toluenas6594
(8) Druskos rūgštis (įskaitant bevandenį vandenilio chloridą)6545
(9) Sieros rūgštis6552
(10) Metilo izobutilketonas (MIBK)6715
(11) Natrio permanganatas6588

šaltinis: https: //www.ecfr.gov/current/title-21/chapter-II/part-1310/section-1310.02

Šiuo metu mefedrono, a-PVP, kanabinoidų ir net kai kurių BMK šaltinių sintezės pirmtakai yra legalūs.

Kartu nesusiduriame su reagentų tiekėjais juodojoje rinkoje. O laboratorijų, kurios užsiima gatavų medžiagų sinteze, yra nedaug.

Mūsų projektas pasirengęs padėti komandoms patekti į pilkąją pirmtakų rinką, galime suteikti reikiamas konsultacijas, rekomenduoti tiekėjus iš Azijos, taip pat padėti įsteigti pirmtakų sintezės įmonę.

Taip pat kviečiame visus susidomėjusius diskutuoti šia tema.
 

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Na aš tyrinėjau rinką ir americzms praranda sveiką protą, kad gautų į rankas a-pvp ir 4mmc. Ribojantys veiksniai yra atitinkamai pirolidinas ir metilaminas (abu sąrašo 2).
 

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Pirolidinas Nematau jo sąraše.
O dėl metilamino turiu klausimą, ar yra teisėta koncentracija?
 

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Labai gerai, ačiū už sąrašą :]
 

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Atrodo, kad nebeturiu ką parduoti.
 

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Ačiū, kad tai parengėte
 

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I am trying to synthesis
N-Phenethyl-Piperidone (NPP)
Already tried for it in my lab, but I failed
Anyone please help me..
 

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Nah.
Usa will seize much more chemicals shipped to usa from china doesnt matter if they are on this list or no.
 

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I know why you can't become major drug lords. This is not meant to disrespect you, but it's a lack of wisdom; I can only say you are small-time dealers. Unfortunately, I can't reveal more. I can only silently watch you waste your time. In terms of cost and life, you are not worth it. Once again, I mean no disrespect."
 

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Indeed kettle. It seems lack of wisdom caused you to make this post, no offense. perhaps you could do some research?
 

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I saw a couple of benign seeming chemicals yesterday on Alibaba,mand when I looked up the cas# and the wire model, I said" hmm, that sure looks a lot like aminorex or 4-mar. Some others were indole derivatives, and 3,5 methylene-dioxy phenylethlamines, looking like 1 legged frogs and shit i sure would like to come across a route to 4-mar or similar that didn't involve the unobtainium ( I forget what it even is, but it's a cyanide derivative) or something from betel nuts that isn't paxil
 

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Only relevant to the US.

I'm no lawyer, but the analogue act only applies to schedule 1 and 2 chemicals.

So if it is lower schedule, or any other list, a simple change from say a chemical with a methyl group, to an ethyl group, should make it legal.

For example, sold here is 1,3-Benzodioxole-5-acetic acid, α-acetyl-, methyl ester. It is now on the DEA Special Surveillance List, which means they consider it used for drug production. However, theoretically, if you had the ethyl Ester, or 1,3-Benzodioxole-5-acetic acid, α-acetyl-, ethyl ester, then you might have a chance at getting away with it.

Granted, the US authorities aren't exactly known for doing legal things or their good practices....

I'm more interested in the MDMA precursors, and there is still a fair amount of theoretical wiggle room for legal precursors. If you just look at the precursors for p2p, there are likely ones that can be produced for mdma as well.

If the chemical is not listed anywhere, you are safest. There are few that aren't listed, like I think the ethyl Ester I mentioned, and diacetylphenyl malonate (p2p) are not listed. Not much else isn't.

We have probably another 4 or 5 years before more are added, stock up while you can.
 

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I agree about the analog act only aspllying to schedule one and 2, but in other parts of the literature it talks about intent and if the person possesing such material BELIEVES it is a cns acting drug, even if it is not, it is considered a drug. There's been talk about the ambiguity of the act and it's enforeability (between lawyers and judges, not between people on a drug chemistry board) but I'd hate to be the one to find out. I actually founf several aminorex analogs for saile on black ops, several other very desireable and hard to find chemicals too. A-pvp at $600/ounce, which isright at the top of the price point imo, but just to even have it...
 

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seems to me indole-3-carbaldehyde or some other aldehyde and MEK aught to land you at MDp2p. I've thought about it for exactly 5 seconds, but it seems logical and something doable(parellel to benzaldehyde +mek=p2p)
 
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