MDP2NP Full Synthesis From Natural Piperine

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I got piperonal obtained Via ozonolysis,How can I purify it? Thanks
 

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Hey, @ukises what ozone machine did you use? I read about this reaction last week
 
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Thank you
 

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Necro replying here but you're nice so ill save u the bother ozonolysis doesnt work as fast as said in lit not worth it.
 

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Why the your piperonal still in liquid, and not crystals form?
 

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Because the obtained piperonal has such physical and chemical properties and environmental conditions
 

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Hello Master I got all.the reagents and materials , maybe you can tellme the necesary quantity for make 100 grams, thanks
 

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Hello, you can calculate them proportionately in accordance with this method.
 

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Amazing, love your work. could we substitute the THF for 1,4 Dioxane? you know these backyard chemist types, would like to know this as 1,4 Dioxane is more obtainable for some of us.
 

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You mean for 100 grs piperine 2 liters thf, 4 liters solution potassium permanganate
 

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Nice job, thanks , i got 5 kgs piperine i want piperonal,but this way is for small scale
 

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Post video on mdp2np to mdp2p plz
 

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Upload next part boss mda or mdma with this
 

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are you make next video on mdp2np to mdp2p ?
 

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Swim found an old, bad ass recipe of how to prepare piperonal from peppers from an old " Perfume Artificial Materials"
 

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So with this method with THF and potassium permanganate ...

Swim could use the piperine (from black pepper extract <95% pure piperine)
straight as is ?

Or

Convert the piperine to piperic acid (as usual, by reacting it with a hydroxide such as potassium hydroxide, then acidifying the formed piperate salt with hydrochloric acid or another acid.)
And then use the piperic acid with the THF and potassium permanganate method ?

To get the good yeilds of piperonal

?
 

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i suggest that everyone that are making piperonal from pepper should run a column chromatography cause most extractions from plants material have a lot of impurities, althoug i dont recomend the ozone way (like the chemiolis video) cause the product would contain a lot of impurities, you need to run a column and the overall piperonal yield would be very low. the ethyl vanillin route is the best i think
 
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