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Nu, lai to, kas ir zināms, Dragon Eric (jā, tas, kurš "kļuva scammer vēlāk" / garš stāsts acīmredzot konti tika pārņemti bla bla bla bla...) un citi lielākie Ķīnas piegādātājs, nekad nav piegādājis tīru 4mmc tas bija maisījums.

Es atceros, lasot ziņu par citu stropu, kur Eric acīmredzot nejauši (vai tīši) dalījās ar kādu informāciju, kas tika ātri dzēsta. Norādot proporcijas 70/20/10 un 80/20. Kopš tā laika par šo tēmu tikai turpinājās debates. Es nevaru atcerēties no galvas, kas tieši tas bija. Es varu mēģināt sameklēt veco sarunu, ja tas kādam palīdzēs.

ja kāds atceras, viņi savulaik pārdeva Eric1 Eric2 Eric3 😂🤣 "tādu pašu", bet nedaudz atšķirīgu versiju.

arī acīmredzot "Eric formula" tika publicēts pārdošanā par ļoti strauju cenu pirms dažiem gadiem nav pārliecināts, vai tas bija īsts vai tikai vēl viens scammer.
 

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Esmu arī redzējis, ka kāds ir teicis, ka 4mmc no Ķīnas nav tīrs, bet esot sajaukts ar 3mmc, tomēr man nav avota, kas to apstiprinātu.

bet varētu pārbaudīt, vai tagad nekas nevar pārspēt ķīniešu mefedronu, es neesmu ķīmiķis, bet kas tagad ir tik atšķirīgs no iepriekš?

tagad var pagatavot super augstas kvalitātes produktu, tāpat kā to varēja darīt agrāk, es domāju.
 

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Oldcool 4MMC ir maisījums 3/4MMC, bet patiesībā es uzskatu, ka cilvēki dod priekšroku 3MMC, jo cilvēki vēlas vairāk stimulācijas sajūtu nekā tīra meph ātra mierīga ietekme, arī es redzu, ka daži cilvēki meklē skolotāju im ex ķīmiķis ar lielu pieredzi, ja kāds ir intrested var PM mani
 

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es arī kaut kur esmu redzējis šo informāciju, bet vai 3mmc nav ātrāks? 4mmc ir daudz vairāk stimulu, bet nav ātrs
 

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3mmc ir vairāk līdzīgs metamfetamīnam, savukārt 4mmc ir vairāk līdzīgs mdma
 

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Es iesniedzu laboratorijai nesen pašgatavotā mefedrona paraugu, un tas izgāja 93%, kas liecina par augstāku tīrību nekā komerciālajam preban paraugam .

Tāpēc tagad esmu vēl vairāk apjucis, jo šī garša ir tik maiga, nav rīkles trieciena, iedarbība ir mazāka. Es bez vilcināšanās samainītu 1 kg pret 250 g (jā, tik liela atšķirība).

Lai gan tiešām, varētu domāt, ka molekula == molekula.

Es gandrīz sāku domāt, ka tik ļoti vēlamais efekts varētu būt piemaisījumu vai blakusproduktu dēļ 😅 tagad TAS būtu paradokss.
 

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Vai viņi atšķīra aktuālo mefedronu no tā izomēra ? Man radās sajūta, ka viņi tos saskaita kā vienu un to pašu produktu..
 

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Jā, tas, ko es nosūtīju pirmo reizi, bija 3 mmc, un šoreiz nosūtīju 4 mmc. Tie ļoti labi atšķiras.
 

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Western world uses DCM like solvents which have very low water solubility. The Chinese did not use any of the solvents mentioned on this or any other site. I have come across some startling new information and might try that offbeat easy synthesis thia weekend nd will report back. Q good synthesis i believe will perhaps reduce purity, have low yield but would under circumstances normally it would not easily cause a failed batch resulting in waste of efforts money and chemicals .
Of this is half as promising as it sounds. Might be on to some chinaman strength meph.
DCM etc r ok but very low yield if batch is big.. like my last 12 kg batch ruined by adding NMP to speed up the process based on herrbarr s improved sunth using dcm. If your 2b4m is very pure it might work but with some unwanted particles in the 2bromo,4 m, nmp is always a bad idea.
The trick might be to use a catalyst that embraces all the ma40 and makes sure maximum conversion of the bk occurs. The polar solvents only react with the methylamine at the layer of contact since the solvents are not very friendly with water. I gonna try this magic new recipe. Ttu guys later
..BOOM 💥 💥
 

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Interesting. I've heard before someone adding some nmp to "speed up" the process.
However, the process is also very much sped up by using a mechanical stirrer. Takes me 35 minutes until the temperature goes down and the reaction complete.

let me know whenever you get an amazing result with an unusual solvent.

My mind keeps playing with the idea of an attempt to do the reaction in N.DimethylFormamide (DMF), i don't know why but probably because it is the best solvent i've seen until now for dissolving the bromo ketone. I use it for cleaning everything that has been in contact with the bromoketone and the only thing which really works. However has a high bp (slow evaporation) which might be undesireble
 
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