Heeft iemand een solide, bewezen synthese van n,n-DET uit tryptamine?

[Rabidreject]

Het zit eigenlijk allemaal in de titel, maar eerlijk gezegd zou ik geïnteresseerd zijn in elk van de primaire tryptamines die gemaakt kunnen worden van tryptamine - anders dan n,n-DMT.

Ik ben erin geslaagd DMT te synthetiseren uit tryptamine - wat leuk is, de eerste volledige drugssynthese. Het is een fijn gevoel - anders dan bij het extraheren, vooral omdat de meeste mensen het verschil gewoon niet zouden weten!

Hoe dan ook, als ik niets anders kan maken in kleine hoeveelheden om voor de eerste keer te proberen, dan zal ik een grote hoeveelheid maken en verkopen om mijn volgende project te financieren en misschien zelfs een rotovap omdat ik super lui ben en minder chems wil bestellen en minder distillaties wil doen!

Hoe dan ook, ik heb nog een heleboel tryptamine over dus....yeah lol

Ik was een beetje vergeten hoeveel DMT eigenlijk waard is. Misschien is het de moeite waard om er DMT van te maken, want tryptamine is heel makkelijk te verkrijgen.

hoe dan ook
Ik reken op slimme jongens. Ik heb nu een schottenpomp zodat ik een klein vacuüm kan trekken rond 1tor of iets meer dus ik denk dat dat nieuwe destillatiemogelijkheden biedt, maar ik kan het mis hebben en misschien maakt het geen verschil haha

 

[Rabidreject]

I would like to get back to this now I have a little experience actually. I heard some good tips on a podcast surrounding this whole reductive amination reaction.
It is annoyingly finicky - I have heard that depolymerising paraformaldehyde in methanol is a bit of a game changer.

 

[mycelium]

https://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/tihkal/tihkal03.shtml

Here you go, there is an entry further down starting from tryptamine

 

[mycelium]

Can't read that on TOR, so here is copy pasta

(from tryptamine) To a solution of 1.6 g tryptamine base in 20 mL isopropanol, there was added 5.5 mL diisopropylethylamine and 2.3 mL ethyl bromide. After stirring at room temperature for 36 h the volatiles were removed under vacuum on the rotary evaporator and the light brown residue (5.17 g) was treated with 5 mL of acetic anhydride and heated in the steam bath for 5 min. After coming to room temperature, 3.5 mL ammonium hydroxide was added, and the exothermic reaction was allowed to return to room temperature. The reaction mixture was suspended in 150 mL 0.5 N H2SO4, and washed with 3x40 mL CH2Cl2. The pooled washes were again extracted with 150 mL 0.5 N H2SO4 and the aqueous phases again washed with CH2Cl2. The aqueous phases were combined, made basic with 6 N NaOH, and then extracted with 3x40 mL CH2Cl2. The pooled extracts were stripped of solvent under vacuum, and the residue (1.49 g of a dark oil with a sharp smell) was distilled at the KugelRohr. The product, N,N-diethyltryptamine, distilled at 175-185 °C at 0.05 mm/Hg to yield a white oil weighing 1.02 g, which spontaneously crystallized. This product was dissolved in 20 mL boiling hexane, cooled to room temperature, and seeded. There was thus obtained 0.72 g of a white waxy crystalline material melting at 84-87 °C. IR (in cm-1): 741, 804, 970, 1018, 1067, 1090 and 1120. MS (in m/z): C5H12N+ 86 (100%); indolemethylene+ 130 (6%); parent ion 206 (1%). The hydrochloride salt (crystallizing spontaneously from an IPA solution of the base treated with a few drops of concentrated HCl) had a mp 169-171 °C, and the following fingerprint: IR (in cm-1): 717 (br.), 759, 847, 968, 1017, 1110. This salt appears to be unstable, darkening with time.

 

[mycelium]

I know DMT in 510 cartridges like we use for THC distillate, is awesome on the dark web, they sell half gram carts. And it is relatively popular because only of convenience of carts, and DMT!
If you go that route, look up the 50ml device on cart farm, much better feel than any other cart fillers (I had the 250ml and loved it)

 

[mycelium]

I know DMT in 510 cartridges like we use for THC distillate, is awesome on the dark web, they sell half gram carts. And it is relatively popular because only of convenience of carts, and DMT!
If you go that route, look up the 50ml device on cart farm, much better feel than any other cart fillers (I had the 250ml and loved it)

 

[Rabidreject]

Oh yeah I did see shulgin’s method but that’s not from tryptamine….you could also obviously do a speeter-antony type synthesis but it’s obviously NOT something I am going to be doing in my bedroom! Ha

I would imagine using acetaldehyde instead of formaldehyde in the reductive amination would firstly remove the whole water thing, allowing you to keep it completely anhydrous, but i would imagine the slightly bulkier alkyl group to stop it being quite as prone to the competing PS reaction….just a guess tho so far. Will try it soon

 

[mycelium]

I quoted it up above, it was from tryptamine, but it wasn't at the begining of the entry, it was half way down

Here it is again:

(from tryptamine) To a solution of 1.6 g tryptamine base in 20 mL isopropanol, there was added 5.5 mL diisopropylethylamine and 2.3 mL ethyl bromide. After stirring at room temperature for 36 h the volatiles were removed under vacuum on the rotary evaporator and the light brown residue (5.17 g) was treated with 5 mL of acetic anhydride and heated in the steam bath for 5 min. After coming to room temperature, 3.5 mL ammonium hydroxide was added, and the exothermic reaction was allowed to return to room temperature. The reaction mixture was suspended in 150 mL 0.5 N H2SO4, and washed with 3x40 mL CH2Cl2. The pooled washes were again extracted with 150 mL 0.5 N H2SO4 and the aqueous phases again washed with CH2Cl2. The aqueous phases were combined, made basic with 6 N NaOH, and then extracted with 3x40 mL CH2Cl2. The pooled extracts were stripped of solvent under vacuum, and the residue (1.49 g of a dark oil with a sharp smell) was distilled at the KugelRohr. The product, N,N-diethyltryptamine, distilled at 175-185 °C at 0.05 mm/Hg to yield a white oil weighing 1.02 g, which spontaneously crystallized. This product was dissolved in 20 mL boiling hexane, cooled to room temperature, and seeded. There was thus obtained 0.72 g of a white waxy crystalline material melting at 84-87 °C. IR (in cm-1): 741, 804, 970, 1018, 1067, 1090 and 1120. MS (in m/z): C5H12N+ 86 (100%); indolemethylene+ 130 (6%); parent ion 206 (1%). The hydrochloride salt (crystallizing spontaneously from an IPA solution of the base treated with a few drops of concentrated HCl) had a mp 169-171 °C, and the following fingerprint: IR (in cm-1): 717 (br.), 759, 847, 968, 1017, 1110. This salt appears to be unstable, darkening with time.

Let us know how it works bro

 

[G.Patton]

He was looking up DET, not DMT.

 

[mycelium]

He was looking up DET, not DMT.