Potentie (sterkte) van methamfetamine

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Is het mogelijk om de potentie (sterkte) van methamfetamine te verhogen?
Ik heb gehoord dat de potentie of sterkte wordt uitgedrukt in octaan.
Heeft iemand hier enig idee over?
Kan de intensiteit van dit product sterker worden gemaakt en zo ja, hoe? Of is dit een gerucht?
 

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De D (R) enantiomeer is ongeveer 10x zo sterk als stimulerend middel dan de L(S) enantiomeer. Met behulp van verschillende chirale verbindingen is men in staat om de 2 te scheiden en door deze scheiding heeft iemand de potentie enorm verhoogd (door alleen dextro meth te gebruiken). Het gebruik van efedrine of psedoephedroine produceert slechts één enantiomeer, dus als je deze precursors gebruikt is het resultaat D- meth. De laatste manier waarop iemand de potentie zou kunnen verhogen is door herkristallisatie, maar dat verbetert alleen als het vuil of adultorated is.
 

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perfect point !
 

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De octaanwaarde van benzine wordt gemeten in octaan, dus ik denk dat je van een hoax hebt gehoord.
Los hiervan beschreef @Frit Buchner de voordelen van de racemaat splitsing, wat een geschikte manier is om de potentie van je spul te verhogen.
 

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I have an odd question - but is it possible to decrease the potency and how ?
 

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It can certainly be adulterated and often times is, but I'm not going to tell 500 people who read this what sort of adulterants are undetectable when cocrystallized with meth. Therer are several that are invisable to the naked eye and there are several that are invisible and virtually undetecftable withough spectrometry and perhaps some that are just undetectable by any known means
 
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well maybe if you can share in private :D
 

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I could, but the thing is, we advocate for selling the best drugs a person can get and charging a price that it consistant with the quality. People who want the cheap drugs are junkies and you don't want them in your backyard at 3 in the morning sneaking around and you don't want them at your house 3 times a day, and you don't want them out there on the street getting busted because the cops will tell them that the only way they can get out of it is to roll on the next guy up (you). and if you can count on 1 thing, its these people don't give a fuck about anyone but themselves and down you'll go. Try to cultivate some higher class associates by pricing it out of the junky price and quality level.
 

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I understand your concern but is more for personal use - I have better high on smoother products for some reason but quality is not always consistent as you say - so investigating way to re-crystallise to sometime make the product smoother . To me that doesnt necessarily mean less or bad quality which is however quite subjective. I am not looking to mass production of low level product to with low yield ....so is really personal research in making a custom brew
 

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well, puifying meth is a piece of cake. There are 2 schemes, 1, you put with the meth, something it is immoscible in. Acetone is the popular choiced, the sol. of meth in quality aceton is 1g/100ml, but if you put the acetone in the freezer until it's below 0c, the solubility is more like 0.5g/100ml.. Using 5ml/g, crush it up, add the ice cold acetone, stir it for 2 minutes, let it settle, and decant or seperatory funnel or buchner funnel the acetone off and let it dry/blow a fan on it gently and thats your basic acetone wash, which works great for the most common adulterant, a sulphur compound. Also sugars and fats, acetone is affective on. The opposite also works. Disolve the meth in methanol or isopropyl, and filter it in the buchner funnel and the liquid contains the meth and hopefully some things that didn't dissolve in the alcohol will be filtered out, Then you can concentrate the solvent and leave it to crystallize
 

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actually are there any video detailing the simple procedure ? How do I make sure acetone won't absorb moisture - ? I think they sell a type which is supposed to be moisture free... I have seen a video here doing a re crystallisation/wash using a condenser and 3 ways beaker and vacuum pump - that seems super pro!
 

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I'm not sure if theres a video here or not, but it's chm 101, the irst type procedures one would learn. You an buy acs or reafgent grade acetone or you can dry it with molecular sieve or magnesium sulfate dehydrate( epsom salt)
 

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Btw. i heard from one old tweaker about quick trick with butane gasvas solveng which evaporate in no time. Anyone can say something about it?
 

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well, butane cedrtainly does evasporate fast and I'm guessing the hcl wouldn't disolve in it, so Those things are true. On the other hand butane is pretty stinky. Iff you do a residue test and get nothing (sprat the butane into a glass and let it evaporate and see if there is any residue) then move to stage 2 testing and see if it dissolves meth. I guess ytoud have to come up with a thing like one does BHO with, so that you was the meth under some pressure and if anything dissolves, it's expelled with the butane. Because it evaporates like 1ml/s if it has 1 squae inch of exposure. Now I'm thinking about it I wonder.....I guess it maqkes since to spray it into a test tube withb a lid that screws on.
 
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