Question Algumas perguntas sobre a cocaína e como cortá-la

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Olá pessoal,
este é o meu primeiro post e espero não ter deixado de ver esta questão já respondida noutro sítio. Agradeço desde já qualquer ajuda e este fórum em geral, é um verdadeiro prazer passar por todo este conteúdo de qualidade aqui no fórum!

Agora a minha pergunta/problema. Felizmente, eu e os meus amigos tivemos a oportunidade de ver e consumir cocaína na Colômbia, cocaína realmente boa e de uma fonte fiável. Eu sou um consumidor de cocaína mais ocasional e só consumo cocaína muito boa para os padrões europeus. Antes de visitar a Colômbia, a chamada "escama de peixe" era a minha preferida, tinha um aspeto sumarento e todos os testes que fiz (testes rápidos e também controlo de energia) me diziam que era muito pura (enviei amostras de controlo de energia que continham 85-95% de cocaína sem cortes - pelo menos sem cortes activos ou conhecidos). Fiquei muito satisfeito, assim como os meus clientes e toda a gente, com a qualidade.

No entanto, na Colômbia também vimos esta cocaína com escamas de peixe, mas o que realmente me chamou a atenção foi a cocaína mais mate que não se parecia muito com escamas de peixe. O efeito era muito mais limpo. Temos um amigo colombiano que não está muito ligado ao negócio, mas que também diz que há uma diferença que afecta sobretudo a cocaína europeia (ou qualquer cocaína exportada em geral). Eu não queria acreditar, apesar de saber que se passava qualquer coisa.

Há alguns dias, estava à procura de informações sobre este assunto e encontrei um vendedor no Reino Unido que vende exatamente o material que parece ser o corte. Ele chama-lhe "imitates", deviam fazer a cocaína como a escama de peixe que toda a gente quer ter e que também tem os mesmos efeitos + pode aumentar o efeito. Além disso, promovem-na como indetetável pelo controlo de energia e, após uma lavagem, ainda deve restar 80-90% de todo o produto se for cortado 1:1. Também oferecem uma coisa chamada supermix. E muitos outros cortes para manipular a ótica da cocaína para um estilo mais favorável na Europa.

Demos aos basers algum do nosso material não cortado, eles ficaram chocados e disseram-nos que há muito tempo que não tinham uma moca tão limpa. Por isso, as minhas perguntas são:

Alguém tem alguma ideia do que é que eles usam exatamente para a cortar?
Como é que conseguem o aspeto de escama de peixe?
Como é que uma lavagem de cocaína não lava os cortes?
Porque é que o controlo de energia não o detecta?

Ou serei apenas um idiota? Espero que não, mas talvez vocês me possam dizer haha

Com os melhores cumprimentos, feiticeiro
 

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Obrigado. Parece até lógico para alguém como eu, que não gosta muito de química.
 

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aux pays bas en particulier a rotterdam ont trouve facilement des produits de coupe comme : la mix,supermix,levimasole,mannitol,turbo,lydocaine,isotonol,et il ya une coupe qui coute assez chere qui a le nom de colombiana cest la plus tendance mais cher 3500 a 4000€ le kg si quelqun serait comment lave a lacetone avec un tuto ou des explication ca serait vraiment cool a la communauté
 
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in the Netherlands, especially in Rotterdam, you can easily find cutting products like: mix, supermix, levimasole, mannitol, turbo, lydocaine, isotonol, and there is a cut that is quite expensive called Colombiana, it is the most trendy but expensive 3500 to 4000€ per kg if anyone knows how to wash with lacetone with a tutorial or explanations that would be really cool for the community
 

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Before any one of you dumbos tries the cuts that he listed, just so you know, almost all of them can be detected by experienced dealers and junkies. I hope one of you tries and gets the shit kicked out of them, because this is such a plague in the coke community that it is not even funny.

100% pure cocaine only needs relatively tight space, some water to pull (even from atmosphere) and it will clump up by itself.. if you start adding the cuts this guy listed, not only will you lose customers (trust me, half of the things he listed do not even behave like cocaine and I am talking about tests you can do in the field with no special instruments), but you will never get it to shine like the fishscale you want.
 

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of course it is better to sell it and consume it pure and not touch it but I was only responding to a post on this subject I would list a little what I saw after everyone is free to do what they want
 

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You use a little sieve to sift the coca

You put a plate in the microwave for 20 seconds.
Put the coke on the plate
Use a razor
Add it to the microwave on the plate for 10 seconds if you need it but heating the plate first somehow makes it drier.

Coke on East coast is damper than West Coast
Coke in Cartagena is oh so amazing, cheap, clean, etc.

Don't dilute the purity you have, if anything clean it up.
 

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Heat plating is used since cocaine is very hygroscopic. If left out, it will form nice fishscale rocks, but it will also retain moisture - to put it up your nose and have it absorb nicely, you heat up a plate in the microwave, take it out like you said and put the coke on it and finely chop it up with a razor - it should get rid of the residual water.

Another reason that it could be damp if it was washed/cut/synthesized and not properly dried after from the solvent - in this case you also want to put it on a heated plate.

Third reason is some bricks were either made by amateurs or hurried along and there are oils remaining in the coca - after washing the solvent will evaporate and you will be left with oily yellowish to brownish residue - a very small amount, for an ounce it will be a couple drops, however this also makes the cocaine "damp", sometimes even unable to lump up and "crystallize" and for the average user putting it on a heated plate will allow the oils to dry up, so that they can snort their product.
 

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by drying the cocaine of its moisture it will lose its weight? and on a larger quantity the process is the same?:)
 

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Well the answer is of course to both of these... YES. The weight is marginal really, few ounces, playing this, you will be wasting time instead of selling it right away. The process really only changes in very large amounts, where you can actually speed it up by dropping just a few drops of distilled water or spraying a few times distilled water on top of a kilogram and wrap this back up tightly to speed the process up. If you do it with less, you will use one drop of distilled water and reduce almost a gram of cocaine salt into a puddle that takes forever to dry by itself.. you need to have enough product to create a nice pillow under the product that will immediately dissolve and for the product to have enough bulk to later pull this humidity and absorb it rather quick - it would most likely be a bad look selling cocaine that is half wet...

At least this is how I do it.. but like I said, this is regarding pure cocaine. I said in another thread - this is not rocket science. There is no two methods to make cocaine hcl, for one to be dry immediately and the other immediately one big rock, it's just the salt absorbing water, forms beautiful patterns...


Now maybe if I was Pablo Escobar level and I needed to satisfy someone and make it rock and not powder, even though I sell the product pure.. (read and realize how ridiculous this sounds even...) maybe I would experiment with some sort of chamber where you can pass humidity into at a controlled pace? Just an idea..
 
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