Alcatrão negro de ópio em bruto

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Tem razão. Pode adicionar anidrido acético entre 5-6 passos para acetilar a morfina. Ajustar o pH a ~3 e, após uma hora de agitação, neutralizar o pH a ~5,5-6 com bicarbonato de sódio.
 
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Hey G.Petton can i also leave the water/plant mix cook for a bit longer then 1 hour so i dont need to strain it and do the water/pant mix 3 times or isnt that recommended? Also how do i acetylate the morphine with Acetic anhydride and how much do i need?
Thanks for the great recipe btw
 
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I don't think that you need increase the time of simmering.
 

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Olá J. Patton, Obrigado pelo seu artigo. Sintetizou este produto a partir de vagens de papoila secas? O ópio não foi utilizado na síntese?
 
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Este método foi escrito para a produção de alcatrão preto. É possível produzir heroína a partir do látex, mas o alcatrão negro é um produto muito mais pobre.
 

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Utilizo o Translite para traduzir textos. Quer dizer sumo de limão, ácido cítrico? Ou utiliza sumo de limão natural? O que quer dizer com sumo de limão?
 

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Por sumo de limão entende-se um líquido que é espremido do fruto do limão.
 

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Segui a receita muito fácil e bem delineada e consegui extrair uma bola de ópio em bruto muito boa para fumar... Obrigado Sr. Patton pelas instruções fáceis de seguir!
Agora, tem alguma experiência em pegar na goma de ópio extraída e criar morfina hcl?
 

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Fixe! Quantas papoilas usaste?

Há um documento que documenta e explica muito bem o processo de isolamento da morfina do ópio em bruto (e também o processamento e refinamento posterior para obter uma percentagem bastante elevada de heroína), tal como é feito pelos agricultores afegãos de papoilas.
Ainda não experimentei, mas vou fazê-lo de certeza nas próximas semanas. Talvez outra pessoa possa dizer algo sobre se e como é possível reduzir a técnica de extração para se adequar a uma pequena produção de ópio de um cultivo caseiro ou semelhante. 🤔
 

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Pessoalmente, estaria muito interessado em ver este projeto. Isto resolveria MUITOS problemas para mim. Parece e soa muito bem @Zippy53! Posso perguntar se supervisionou o cultivo pessoalmente ou como se pode obter as matérias-primas? Eu vivo num clima do norte, perto de Boston especificamente - não suponho que estas possam ser cultivadas ao ar livre sazonalmente? Tenho uma ou duas luzes LED para cultivar marijuana, não deve ser um problema ter uma ou duas papoilas no armário? Quanto tempo é que demora desde a germinação até à colheita? Existe algum vendedor de sementes fiável no meio? Provavelmente posso encontrar informações para o cultivo no erowid se não aqui...
Agradeço desde já a vossa atenção para as minhas perguntas tolas. Os meus melhores cumprimentos.
 

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To answer some my own naive questions. Poppies grow just fine in northern climates, some even prefer. Seeds which can be acquired in abundance, grocery store variety are active but weak, better strains can be found online, can be cast effortlessly and without much care onto loose soil almost anywhere during autumn or early spring and these things will grow. Indoors works but outdoor is better - you need alot more than 1 or 2. It only takes 2-3 months from start to finish. If sewn in autumn, they hibernate of course.
 

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Swim absolutely loves this science article !!!! 🤩

question, what would happen if the temperature where to go above 60 C ???

What do you mean by "activate' ???
 

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Im assuming he means they will decompose but id like to see a source because those temps sure as shit aint true they're wayyyy too low and you can literally smoke morphine! Like thats what he is suggesting you do anyway ^^
on top of that morphine can be purified by sublimation at 190°C lol
So do not worry about the heat
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Swim looked up on a search engine " codiene activates 68 celsius "

... The author of this BB post isn't talking about a CYP2D6 enzyme of metabolism? Lol

But got this : What temperature does codeine degrade?

As a comparison, a previous report found that 80–90% of morphine and codeine degraded after 20 min at 220 °C, although the actual starting opium alkaloid concentration was not indicated.

HERE'S FROM THIS SCIENCE ARTICLE:
"The results from the heat treatment experiments indicated that the three major opium alkaloids are relatively stable. At 120 °C, minimal, if any, alkaloid degradation was observed after 120 min. With the experimental temperature at 200 °C, the half-life of morphine and codeine was found to be approximately 32–39 min, while thebaine was only 3 min. As a comparison, a previous report found that 80–90% of morphine and codeine degraded after 20 min at 220 °C, although the actual starting opium alkaloid concentration was not indicated.30 Use of heat treatments in this range of temperatures to promote opium alkaloid degradation would not likely be useful, as they will likely affect the sensory aspects of poppy seeds."

***THIS SCIENCE ARTICLE ALSO ILLUSTRATED THAT THERE ARE ARE ARE ARE ARE ARE ARE ARE OPIUM ALKALOIDS IN POPPY SEEDS ! ***

Swim used a search engine "morphine activates 82 C"

The author of this BB post isn't talking about "a signal on a G protein cascade " ? Lol

But got this : What temperature does morphine break down?

As a comparison, a previous report found that 80–90% of morphine and codeine degraded after 20 min at 220 °C, although the actual starting opium alkaloid concentration was not indicated.


*∆ Great Link about Poppy Seeds !
 

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Effect of thermal treatment on opium alkaloids

(See chart in attachment)
 

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