Question Niekoľko otázok týkajúcich sa kokaínu a spôsobu jeho skrátenia

[sorcerer]

Ahoj chlapci,
toto je môj prvý príspevok a dúfam, že som neprehliadol, že tieto otázky už boli zodpovedané niekde inde. Vopred ďakujem za akúkoľvek pomoc a vôbec za toto fórum, je naozaj radosť prechádzať všetok ten kvalitný obsah tu na fóre!

Teraz k mojej otázke/problému. Našťastie ako ja a moji priatelia sme mali možnosť vidieť a užiť kokaín v Kolumbii, naozaj dobrý kokaín zo spoľahlivého zdroja. Ja som skôr príležitostný užívateľ kokaínu a na európske pomery užívam len veľmi dobrý kokaín. Pred návštevou Kolumbie bola mojím favoritom tzv. rybia šupina, vyzerala šťavnato a každý test, ktorý som urobil (rýchle testy a aj energetická kontrola), mi povedal, že je veľmi čistý (poslal som energetické kontrolné vzorky, ktoré obsahovali 85-95 % kokaínu, pričom sa nenašli žiadne rezné látky - aspoň nie aktívne alebo známe rezné látky). Bol som veľmi spokojný, rovnako ako moji klienti a všetci ostatní, čo sa týka kvality.

V Kolumbii sme však videli aj tento kokaín s rybími šupinami, ale čo ma naozaj zaujalo, bol matnejší kokaín, ktorý sa až tak veľmi nepodobal na rybie šupiny. Jeho high bol oveľa čistejší. Máme kolumbijského kamaráta, ktorý sa veľmi nezaoberá obchodom, ale tiež hovorí, že existuje rozdiel, ktorý sa týka hlavne európskeho kokaínu (alebo každého vyvážaného kokaínu vo všeobecnosti). Naozaj som tomu nechcel veriť, aj keď som vedel, že sa niečo deje.

Pred niekoľkými dňami som hľadal informácie týkajúce sa tohto a našiel som predajcu v Spojenom kráľovstve, ktorý presne predáva materiál, ktorý sa zdá byť rezom. Nazýva to "imituje", mali by z toho urobiť kokaín ako rybiu šupinu, ktorú chce mať každý a má aj rovnaké účinky + môže zvýšiť high. Tiež to propagujú ako nezistiteľné kontrolou energie a tiež po umytí by malo zostať ešte 80-90% celého produktu, ak je rezaný 1:1. Ponúkajú aj niečo, čo sa nazýva supermix. A mnoho ďalších rezov na manipuláciu s kokaínovou optikou na štýl, ktorý je v Európe obľúbenejší.

Dali sme baserom zopár našich neorezaných vecí, boli šokovaní a povedali nám, že už dlho nemali taký čistý high. Takže moje otázky sú:

Má niekto tušenie, čo presne používajú na rezanie?
Ako dosahujú vzhľad rybej šupiny?
Ako je možné, že kokaínová pračka z neho nevyplavuje tie odrezky?
Prečo to nedokáže zistiť energetická kontrola?

Alebo som len idiot? Dúfam, že nie, ale možno mi to poviete vy, haha

S láskavým pozdravom, čarodejník

 

[sorcerer]

Vďaka. Znie to dokonca logicky pre niekoho ako ja, kto sa o chémiu veľmi nezaujíma.

 

[blackayzen]

aux pays bas en particulier a rotterdam ont trouve facilement des produits de coupe comme : la mix,supermix,levimasole,mannitol,turbo,lydocaine,isotonol,et il ya une coupe qui coute assez chere qui a le nom de colombiana cest la plus tendance mais cher 3500 a 4000€ le kg si quelqun serait comment lave a lacetone avec un tuto ou des explication ca serait vraiment cool a la communauté

 

[blackayzen]

in the Netherlands, especially in Rotterdam, you can easily find cutting products like: mix, supermix, levimasole, mannitol, turbo, lydocaine, isotonol, and there is a cut that is quite expensive called Colombiana, it is the most trendy but expensive 3500 to 4000€ per kg if anyone knows how to wash with lacetone with a tutorial or explanations that would be really cool for the community

 

[Loki12]

Before any one of you dumbos tries the cuts that he listed, just so you know, almost all of them can be detected by experienced dealers and junkies. I hope one of you tries and gets the shit kicked out of them, because this is such a plague in the coke community that it is not even funny.

100% pure cocaine only needs relatively tight space, some water to pull (even from atmosphere) and it will clump up by itself.. if you start adding the cuts this guy listed, not only will you lose customers (trust me, half of the things he listed do not even behave like cocaine and I am talking about tests you can do in the field with no special instruments), but you will never get it to shine like the fishscale you want.

 

[blackayzen]

of course it is better to sell it and consume it pure and not touch it but I was only responding to a post on this subject I would list a little what I saw after everyone is free to do what they want

 

[mycelium]

You use a little sieve to sift the coca

You put a plate in the microwave for 20 seconds.
Put the coke on the plate
Use a razor
Add it to the microwave on the plate for 10 seconds if you need it but heating the plate first somehow makes it drier.

Coke on East coast is damper than West Coast
Coke in Cartagena is oh so amazing, cheap, clean, etc.

Don't dilute the purity you have, if anything clean it up.

 

[Loki12]

Heat plating is used since cocaine is very hygroscopic. If left out, it will form nice fishscale rocks, but it will also retain moisture - to put it up your nose and have it absorb nicely, you heat up a plate in the microwave, take it out like you said and put the coke on it and finely chop it up with a razor - it should get rid of the residual water.

Another reason that it could be damp if it was washed/cut/synthesized and not properly dried after from the solvent - in this case you also want to put it on a heated plate.

Third reason is some bricks were either made by amateurs or hurried along and there are oils remaining in the coca - after washing the solvent will evaporate and you will be left with oily yellowish to brownish residue - a very small amount, for an ounce it will be a couple drops, however this also makes the cocaine "damp", sometimes even unable to lump up and "crystallize" and for the average user putting it on a heated plate will allow the oils to dry up, so that they can snort their product.

 

[blackayzen]

by drying the cocaine of its moisture it will lose its weight? and on a larger quantity the process is the same?

 

[Loki12]

Well the answer is of course to both of these... YES. The weight is marginal really, few ounces, playing this, you will be wasting time instead of selling it right away. The process really only changes in very large amounts, where you can actually speed it up by dropping just a few drops of distilled water or spraying a few times distilled water on top of a kilogram and wrap this back up tightly to speed the process up. If you do it with less, you will use one drop of distilled water and reduce almost a gram of cocaine salt into a puddle that takes forever to dry by itself.. you need to have enough product to create a nice pillow under the product that will immediately dissolve and for the product to have enough bulk to later pull this humidity and absorb it rather quick - it would most likely be a bad look selling cocaine that is half wet...

At least this is how I do it.. but like I said, this is regarding pure cocaine. I said in another thread - this is not rocket science. There is no two methods to make cocaine hcl, for one to be dry immediately and the other immediately one big rock, it's just the salt absorbing water, forms beautiful patterns...


Now maybe if I was Pablo Escobar level and I needed to satisfy someone and make it rock and not powder, even though I sell the product pure.. (read and realize how ridiculous this sounds even...) maybe I would experiment with some sort of chamber where you can pass humidity into at a controlled pace? Just an idea..