Looking for a vendor Ethyl Ester
- Thread starter Blammo
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Why exactly ethyl ester? This type of substances require the same route to ketone independent of alkyl moiety of ester:
With slight molar excess of base (NaOH) it goes into water solution as sodium salt during stirring, then by adding large excess of muriatic acid and applying of heat, decarboxylation occurs.
Then extraction, drying, and vacuum distillation. Avoid contact of strong bases with this ketone.
With slight molar excess of base (NaOH) it goes into water solution as sodium salt during stirring, then by adding large excess of muriatic acid and applying of heat, decarboxylation occurs.
Then extraction, drying, and vacuum distillation. Avoid contact of strong bases with this ketone.
- By Blammo
This is a fantastic chart, I really appreciate it!
Technical legalities is why the ethyl Ester is desired. Technically, if the package gets stopped, and it is analyzed, I'm in trouble because the methyl ester is on the DEA's Special Surveillance List. The ethyl Ester isn't, and while it might get me on a list, it's technically a legal chemical, and any legal trouble can be predicated upon this.
Technical legalities is why the ethyl Ester is desired. Technically, if the package gets stopped, and it is analyzed, I'm in trouble because the methyl ester is on the DEA's Special Surveillance List. The ethyl Ester isn't, and while it might get me on a list, it's technically a legal chemical, and any legal trouble can be predicated upon this.
- By mycelium
Bdfore I ever knew shit about chemistry other than I wanted to learn when I got out of prison, I read drug laws, and I didn't even know what I was reading at the time, but there was always "this drug is illegal, this drug, it's salts, isomers, eaters, salts of isomers .." it was saying that for instance, methamphetamine(altho there wasn't specific meth trafficking charges at that time) and every possible other way you make it...
Yet I digress
I think they would make ALL esters of certain substances illegal.
And plausible deniability holds true, if you don't get substances delivered to your lab with TOR open on the computer
Yet I digress
I think they would make ALL esters of certain substances illegal.
And plausible deniability holds true, if you don't get substances delivered to your lab with TOR open on the computer
- By Blammo
You have a point that some drugs and their isomers and esters are controlled, but in this case the ethyl Ester is very likely uncontrolled.
For example, MDP2P and its salts and esters are on the List 1 chemical list, but imo, the ethyl Ester does not fall under this. It is the ethyl Ester of MD phenyl aceto acetate, not of mdp2p, and it isn't an isomers, as it doesn't have the same molecular formula.
There are a few little bits of wiggle room here or there, and while this doesn't stop the arrest, it may allow a lawyer to beat this in court.
However, I'm not a lawyer, and could be completely wrong.
For example, MDP2P and its salts and esters are on the List 1 chemical list, but imo, the ethyl Ester does not fall under this. It is the ethyl Ester of MD phenyl aceto acetate, not of mdp2p, and it isn't an isomers, as it doesn't have the same molecular formula.
There are a few little bits of wiggle room here or there, and while this doesn't stop the arrest, it may allow a lawyer to beat this in court.
However, I'm not a lawyer, and could be completely wrong.