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No, kar je bilo znano, Dragon Eric (da, tisti, ki je "kasneje postal prevarant" / dolga zgodba očitno so bili računi prevzeti bla bla bla...) in drugi glavni kitajski dobavitelj, nikoli ni dobavljal čistega 4mmc, ki je bil mešanica.

Spomnim se, da sem prebral objavo na različnih panjih, kjer je Eric očitno po naključju (ali namerno) delil nekaj informacij, ki so bile hitro izbrisane. Navedel je razmerja 70/20/10 in 80/20. Od takrat se je v zvezi s to temo samo še razpravljalo. Iz glave se ne morem spomniti, za kaj točno je šlo. Lahko poskusim poiskati stari pogovor, če bo to komu pomagalo.

če se kdo spomni, so včasih prodajali verige Eric1 Eric2 Eric3 😂🤣 "enake", vendar nekoliko drugačne.

tudi očitno "Eric formula" je bil objavljen na prodaj po zelo strmi ceni nekaj let nazaj ni prepričan, če je bil pravi ali samo še en prevarant.
 

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videl sem tudi, da je nekdo rekel, da 4mmc iz kitajske ni bil čist, ampak je bil menda pomešan s 3mmc, vendar nimam vira, ki bi to potrdil.

vendar bi preveril, če zdaj nič ne more premagati kitajskega mefedrona, nisem kemik, vendar kaj je zdaj tako drugačno kot prej?

mislim, da lahko zdaj narediš super visokokakovosten izdelek, tako kot si ga lahko naredil prej.
 

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Oldcool 4MMC je mešanica 3/4MMC, vendar dejansko menim, da ljudje dajejo prednost 3MMC, ker ljudje želijo več stimulacijskega občutka kot hitri mirni učinki čistega meph, prav tako vidim, da nekateri ljudje iščejo učitelja im ex kemik z veliko izkušnjami, če je kdo intrested lahko PM me
 

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tudi to informacijo sem že nekje zasledil, vendar ali ni 3mmc tisti, ki je hitrejši? 4mmc ima veliko več stimulacije, hkrati pa ni hiter
 

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3mmc je bolj podoben metamfetaminu, medtem ko je 4mmc bolj podoben mdma
 

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V laboratorij sem predložil vzorec nedavno samopripravljenega mefedrona in izšel je 93-odstoten, kar kaže na večjo čistost kot komercialni vzorec preban .

Zato sem zdaj še bolj zmeden, saj je ta okus tako mehak, brez udarca v grlo, učinki so manjši. Brez oklevanja bi zamenjal 1 kg za 250 g (ja, tolikšna razlika).

Medtem ko res, človek bi mislil, da je molekula == molekula.

Skoraj začenjam razmišljati, da so tako iskani učinki morda posledica nečistoč ali stranskih produktov 😅 zdaj pa bi bil to paradoks.
 

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Ali so razlikovali dejanski mefedron od njegovega izomera ? Zdi se mi, da so ju združili kot isti izdelek.
 

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Da, to, kar sem poslal prvič, je bilo 3-mmc, tokrat pa sem poslal 4-mmc. Zelo dobro se razlikujeta.
 

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Western world uses DCM like solvents which have very low water solubility. The Chinese did not use any of the solvents mentioned on this or any other site. I have come across some startling new information and might try that offbeat easy synthesis thia weekend nd will report back. Q good synthesis i believe will perhaps reduce purity, have low yield but would under circumstances normally it would not easily cause a failed batch resulting in waste of efforts money and chemicals .
Of this is half as promising as it sounds. Might be on to some chinaman strength meph.
DCM etc r ok but very low yield if batch is big.. like my last 12 kg batch ruined by adding NMP to speed up the process based on herrbarr s improved sunth using dcm. If your 2b4m is very pure it might work but with some unwanted particles in the 2bromo,4 m, nmp is always a bad idea.
The trick might be to use a catalyst that embraces all the ma40 and makes sure maximum conversion of the bk occurs. The polar solvents only react with the methylamine at the layer of contact since the solvents are not very friendly with water. I gonna try this magic new recipe. Ttu guys later
..BOOM 💥 💥
 

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Interesting. I've heard before someone adding some nmp to "speed up" the process.
However, the process is also very much sped up by using a mechanical stirrer. Takes me 35 minutes until the temperature goes down and the reaction complete.

let me know whenever you get an amazing result with an unusual solvent.

My mind keeps playing with the idea of an attempt to do the reaction in N.DimethylFormamide (DMF), i don't know why but probably because it is the best solvent i've seen until now for dissolving the bromo ketone. I use it for cleaning everything that has been in contact with the bromoketone and the only thing which really works. However has a high bp (slow evaporation) which might be undesireble
 
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