Hello guys, as promised, I reveal/remind you better psychedelic for recreational purposes than even well-known 2C-B, at least in my opinion.
I feel I should leave here some info about gems of drug world, that are mostly hidden from public discussion. Let's start from this one.
2C-B is a nice drug, but even it's overhyped (as for psychedelic, but nowhere near as much as cocaine for stimulants class) and overshades other, likely even better drugs for some cases.
One of such drug is 2C-N-NBOMe (not confuse with 2CN-NBOMe) or 25N-NBOMe shortly.
It's at least x20 times more potent than 2C-B (average dose <1mg sublingually).
It's less physically demanding and usually doesn't cause nausea, has one of the lowest body load from all 2C-x/NBOMe family.
It's euphoric, extremely visually beautiful and colorful, much more than LSD and even 2C-B in equipotent doses, as well as other 2C-Xs. (visual power caused by 5-HT2A agonists is pretty individual though)
It's very mentally easy, pretty clear minded, doesn't cause much introspection and so brain fucks and bad trips are rare - perfect for festivals and other public places, you have more control of situation,
in fact it's one of the only few psychedelics that allows you to enjoy being in public and not feel anxiety or fall into panic attacks,
at least at regular doses, moreover its magic fully unfolds exactly in this environment, as it's great entactogen/empathogen.
By comparing relation of power of its visual to introspective properties with such relation for other psychedelics, I think it's total winner with #1 rank.
It has mild but not overwhelming stimulating effect, so allows you to enjoy walking or other physical activity.
On the other side, sitting alone at home under this drug can be somehow boring, so for this case better fits more introspective psychedelics (see in future reveals).
It's great music enhancer.
It's pretty short-acting, 3-5h for a main part of effects, similar to 2C-B, so it ends before start being annoying.
All that together makes 2C-N-NBOMe perfect choice for the first psychedelic experience, even surpassing 2C-B that is usually recommended for such cases.
As well as makes it great candidate for recreational purposes, as much as psychedelics class allows at all.
Interesting note, Shulgin in his book PiHKAL wrote about 2C-N:
"From the esthetic point of view, the pure salt is yellow rather than the usual white color, so the solutions that are to be consumed are by definition also yellow colored. From the structural point of view, the 4-nitro group, like the 4-bromo group of 2C-B, is a dead-end. It cannot be stretched or compressed or lengthened or shortened. This unique aspect demands that you have to live with what you have, as there are no subtle ways of modifying the molecule. With 2C-B, the end product was a total winner; there was no wish to modify it. With 2C-N the end product is something a little less, and there is no way to modify it."
By that time he didn't know that modification is indeed possible, although from another side of molecule, moreover this modification will increase potency x100+ times, bringing it from weakest 2C-X to one of the most potent NBOMes and psychedelics at all, and allows truly enjoy this nitro compound's effects, omitting toxic effects of large dose of 2C-N, that greatly influence overall psychedelic experience.
We cooked and enjoyed this "Yellow Sunshine" long before it even appeared on market in 201x.
By that time it was truly meaningful and somehow mystical achievement - getting substance that has almost LSD-like potency (intranasally it is only x2-3 times weaker than LSD by weight) and giving you so much beautiful color spectrum into your life that you couldn't even imagine your brain are capable to see.
There are a few reasons why it doesn't become popular:
1) It's NBOMe, so it fall under massive demonizing propaganda of all that class after first deaths. Of course NBOMes can be dangerous at high doses, moreover if anyone can get purest powdery form (that was never a case for LSD for end users) and sniff it didn't realizing it's power. Intranasal route is much more efficient that sublingual or buccal for NBOMes, especially in alcoholic solution, sometimes even x2-3 times.
As far as I know, no deaths for 25N-MBOMe (nitro analog) was ever recorded, but anyway set & setting is very important for psychedelics, so if someone truly believes that he ingests deadly compound, it greatly influence overall experience.
2) It's fucking yellow. Yes, even purest drugs with nitro group sometimes are yellow in their crystalline form. As the main goal for dealers in that time was mimic LSD as much as possible, it couldn't fit well for the best adulterant, moreover it gives much shorted trip.
3) All NBOMes and NBOHs are prepared from their 2C-X counterparts, so it was much easier to prepare 25B and 25I ones from 2C-B and 2C-I respectively, which was already on the market in large amounts by that time, as the most popular 2C-Xs. Funnily that the "best" NBOMes are 25C, 25N and for some 25I (but likely they didn't tried all), that can be prepared from the not the most preferred 2Cs. The most widely offered was 25I analog, likely for reasons mentioned above.
A few old reviews about 25N-NBOMe under spoiler:
I wish i could see pure "yellowish" or "yellow wish" stuff on the markets again.
Its synthesis from 2C-H is pretty easy, with nitration step being similar in workup to bromination, even easier.
Considering (temporary) legal availability of aldehyde and even nitrostyrene precursors for cheap, new Psychedelic Renaissance is fully in your hands.
Make NBOMes, not bombs.
I feel I should leave here some info about gems of drug world, that are mostly hidden from public discussion. Let's start from this one.
2C-B is a nice drug, but even it's overhyped (as for psychedelic, but nowhere near as much as cocaine for stimulants class) and overshades other, likely even better drugs for some cases.
One of such drug is 2C-N-NBOMe (not confuse with 2CN-NBOMe) or 25N-NBOMe shortly.
It's at least x20 times more potent than 2C-B (average dose <1mg sublingually).
It's less physically demanding and usually doesn't cause nausea, has one of the lowest body load from all 2C-x/NBOMe family.
It's euphoric, extremely visually beautiful and colorful, much more than LSD and even 2C-B in equipotent doses, as well as other 2C-Xs. (visual power caused by 5-HT2A agonists is pretty individual though)
It's very mentally easy, pretty clear minded, doesn't cause much introspection and so brain fucks and bad trips are rare - perfect for festivals and other public places, you have more control of situation,
in fact it's one of the only few psychedelics that allows you to enjoy being in public and not feel anxiety or fall into panic attacks,
at least at regular doses, moreover its magic fully unfolds exactly in this environment, as it's great entactogen/empathogen.
By comparing relation of power of its visual to introspective properties with such relation for other psychedelics, I think it's total winner with #1 rank.
It has mild but not overwhelming stimulating effect, so allows you to enjoy walking or other physical activity.
On the other side, sitting alone at home under this drug can be somehow boring, so for this case better fits more introspective psychedelics (see in future reveals).
It's great music enhancer.
It's pretty short-acting, 3-5h for a main part of effects, similar to 2C-B, so it ends before start being annoying.
All that together makes 2C-N-NBOMe perfect choice for the first psychedelic experience, even surpassing 2C-B that is usually recommended for such cases.
As well as makes it great candidate for recreational purposes, as much as psychedelics class allows at all.
Interesting note, Shulgin in his book PiHKAL wrote about 2C-N:
"From the esthetic point of view, the pure salt is yellow rather than the usual white color, so the solutions that are to be consumed are by definition also yellow colored. From the structural point of view, the 4-nitro group, like the 4-bromo group of 2C-B, is a dead-end. It cannot be stretched or compressed or lengthened or shortened. This unique aspect demands that you have to live with what you have, as there are no subtle ways of modifying the molecule. With 2C-B, the end product was a total winner; there was no wish to modify it. With 2C-N the end product is something a little less, and there is no way to modify it."
By that time he didn't know that modification is indeed possible, although from another side of molecule, moreover this modification will increase potency x100+ times, bringing it from weakest 2C-X to one of the most potent NBOMes and psychedelics at all, and allows truly enjoy this nitro compound's effects, omitting toxic effects of large dose of 2C-N, that greatly influence overall psychedelic experience.
We cooked and enjoyed this "Yellow Sunshine" long before it even appeared on market in 201x.
By that time it was truly meaningful and somehow mystical achievement - getting substance that has almost LSD-like potency (intranasally it is only x2-3 times weaker than LSD by weight) and giving you so much beautiful color spectrum into your life that you couldn't even imagine your brain are capable to see.
There are a few reasons why it doesn't become popular:
1) It's NBOMe, so it fall under massive demonizing propaganda of all that class after first deaths. Of course NBOMes can be dangerous at high doses, moreover if anyone can get purest powdery form (that was never a case for LSD for end users) and sniff it didn't realizing it's power. Intranasal route is much more efficient that sublingual or buccal for NBOMes, especially in alcoholic solution, sometimes even x2-3 times.
As far as I know, no deaths for 25N-MBOMe (nitro analog) was ever recorded, but anyway set & setting is very important for psychedelics, so if someone truly believes that he ingests deadly compound, it greatly influence overall experience.
2) It's fucking yellow. Yes, even purest drugs with nitro group sometimes are yellow in their crystalline form. As the main goal for dealers in that time was mimic LSD as much as possible, it couldn't fit well for the best adulterant, moreover it gives much shorted trip.
3) All NBOMes and NBOHs are prepared from their 2C-X counterparts, so it was much easier to prepare 25B and 25I ones from 2C-B and 2C-I respectively, which was already on the market in large amounts by that time, as the most popular 2C-Xs. Funnily that the "best" NBOMes are 25C, 25N and for some 25I (but likely they didn't tried all), that can be prepared from the not the most preferred 2Cs. The most widely offered was 25I analog, likely for reasons mentioned above.
A few old reviews about 25N-NBOMe under spoiler:
@rettolb
This one took me a couple times to actually enjoy it. It isnt at all what I was expecting... I feel its perfect for going out and about, which is the opposite of how I feel on any other 25x.
The first couple times I sat home and was prepared for a hard trip (1.4mg) and I didnt enjoy it. But when I took it at the 4th of july fair last year I had a blast, seemed like everything was perfect..
moving around and socializing felt awesome and seemed to make me trip harder. Needless to say I love going out on it, definitly a fun party drug (for me anyway)
With 25i/c/b I prefer to stay home and trip out either with a few close friends or with my gf. I feel uncomfortable around others (i being the eexception, on lower doses I can function well but prefer to be home)
All in all its a good chem, im glad I have it in my collection. Oh and yes it def does dye my paper like a rusy orange/yellow, I think thays pretty neat actually
@RCJoJo
I tried 25N-NBOMe at 1000mcg and liked it most of all the NBOMe's I tried. For me it was very active in the visual field(eyes open) and quite euphoric with little to no noticeable body load.
I should add that I liked 25I-NBOMe least of all. The body load was just much too much for my taste and made the entire experience un-enjoyable for me.
@RCJoJo
25N-NBOMe, Definitely my favorite NBOMe. No body load and very enjoyable, visually stimulating trip.
25B-NBOMe was my second favorite. Manageable body load and nice OEVs.
25C-NBOMe for me seemed very similar to it's 2C-C counterpart.
25I-NBOMe, I would say this was my least favorite of the NBOMe's. The body load was very uncomfortable and ruined the experience for me.
@spacetrippin
took 4 tabs at 11 at night,this was a almost pitch black trip, in my room, had lights from windows coming threw bed room,and from the beginning i dont remember much beside visuals so strong i was barley able to look at phone and change sounds soo i basicly only got one song from the whole trip, it was some shpongle song,wishhh i had rembered more of it,but the main visuals that i can recall Were going down stairs little fairys with like signs couldent see what the said but all in ny feild of visuan till getting downstairs and these visuals were have much more spark too time. Then any of the nbomes,also on same jurney too fridge i got completely lost in my own house the visuals were soo strong could not see the damn doors around me
I wish id rember more but it was soo hectic and dark it was hard to till this one
But duritation was 5 hours, wayyy better then and nbome and 2c ive ever tookin and noo bodyload or anxity this ones a winner deff a level 4 trip will report another in same dose in the light
@spacetrippin
25b actually felt the most dangerous of all nbomes I have tryed, 25i too and then 25c next, the only good nbome is 25n
The rest are just good for the visuals
25n brings visuals and a safe mind set
Little off topic but yeah I've got a lot of exp with nbomes and some of those experiences are not good
I'm lucky too be alive
And prolly will never take them agian
@spacetrippin
Idk bout don to compare too but, 25n compared to the other nbomes its best hands down, visuals, bodyload, this one is a winner
@Anon0631
I'm just finishing a trial of 450ug of uncomplexed 25n-NBOMe taken buccally on a (bright yellow) blotter. Overall this experience was too light for me - about equal to 10-12mg of insufflated 2c-b. A nice way to warm up an evening but not really enough to judge the nature of the drug. Although I only reached a +, edging onto ++ at the peak, it showed some promise. It has none of the introspection or stimulation of 25d, in fact in many ways it's the opposite. It's different in nature to 25c. Although it shares the emotional warmth it's missing the spark of the chlorinated version.
The main effects were a general psychedelic cosiness and very nice body/skin feelings. I can see why a previous poster said it would make a good club drug. The best way to describe it is a relaxed energy, not urgent or speedy at all.
Chatting online I found it easy to open up to a stranger and really bare myself in a confident and relaxed way. At this dose it's hardly visual and has minimal interpretative effects although I did keep thinking that the characters on my phone keyboard were in a foreign alphabet. Then I would look closely and it would be obviously English. Subtle changes in perception which amuse rather than arouse.
There was a bowel movement at the beginning of the experiment and some very mild nausea throughout but this could have been due to eating too many samosas, ladoos and kachuris about an hour before coming up.
In an odd way I could see this substituting for a few lines of coke during an evening at home with close friends. Another way of describing it might be the 5-meo-mipt of the NBOMe's.
For me the jury is out on this until I try it at a higher dose but I'm eager to step it up and see where it takes me.
@Anon0631
I would say that all of them are light on body load with the exception of stimulation. The most stimulating ones are 25d and 25i. The least stimulating is 25c. 25b and 25n fall somewhere in the middle.
I haven't tried 25e, 25p, 25t/t2/t7 and 25g yet so I can't comment on those.
@Anon0631
I would avoid 25i too. I would have a casual affair with 25n though - nothing serious, mainly for the novelty.
@Anon0631
Starting dosages for each compound. Use these to judge the relative dosage levels between compounds (IE. if you know that 1mg 25i-NBOMe is the sweet spot for you, divide 1000 by 600 and then multiply the result by 350 to find the suggested dosage for 25c-NBOMe):
25b - 500µg
25n - 500µg
25c - 350µg
25d - 850µg
25i - 600µg
@pihkal77
I usually don't have time to post trip reports but I feel like I should post this report bc there is not much information on this NBOMe
I have had experiences with Marijuana, Shrooms, LSD, Methylone, 2C-e, 2C-p, 2-C-t2, 4-meo-mipt, MDMA, Amphetimines (many stimulants), 25i-NBOMe, 25c-NBOMe, Xanax, Klonopin, Nitrous, Pain, Spice, Ethylone, and 25n-NBOMe and I don't take any medication like SSRIs or anythingI have had 25n-NBOMe around 4 to 5 times before this experience but Never this profound, oh and i must add this NBOMe is one of the cleanest in the family like 25c on body load but have Xanax on hand. But like every NBOMe you should wait 2 weeks before you trip if you want to have a mind blowing experience, which is how i had this one.
Ok so I popped 4 hits (around 1mg on each blotter) after i had taken a white Xanax bar and 2 shots of jack Daniels an hour earlier.
1:00am to 1:38am i held the botters in my mouth without swallowing for that entire time (round 40 mins) but had to take them out bc it was getting overwhelming and time distortion was absolutely insane, my brother had friends over that night so i had to stay in my room and go to crazy town, and at one point it was hard to see i literally there was egyptian like patterns flying everywhere, it was on of the most colorful and detailed trips i had ever experienced in my life. I was looking at the ceiling and it was colorful and filled with egyptain like patterns coming down at my face, tracers were insane shadows of myself when i walked looked like someone was behind me. so what i feel like is 6 hours i look at the time and it was only 3 O' Clock! I went to the bathroom and looked into the mirror and i have never had so many visuals in my life they were everywhere it was simply amazing, I then go outside to smoke a bowl with a friend and this guy had done this chemical many many many times but he's kinda socially awkward but a very nice and cool dude, but I have never had such an ego death from tripping so hard it was so hard to communicate with him and i thought i would get stuck like this and he was weird because of the chemical haha. So after he leaves (around 4) I take another half of a xanax bar and go back outside to look at the stars, this is where things got completely insane as im smoking the entire sky is filled with dragons (like a egyptain patterns) all connected in the sky it was so beautiful i was listening to pink floyd all night and it was a really deep trip especially the song Echoes, bc i had been going through alot of bad things in my life (3.5 year relationship gone to almost being throw out of my house and drug charges pending on me), But listing to pink floyd just made me literally cry tears of joy when i was seeing all this beauty, it was pure Ecstasy, this chemical was blissful like LSD and MDMA . I could still keep myself together mentally but thoughts raced through my head like crazy and it was hard to stay focused on one thing. But later around 5 i began to kinda get scared because i didn't know if it was bad to mix Xanax and NBOMes together eventhough i had done it many times in the past and never had a problem but i called some ppl kinda worried asking them if i should take them. But when i was on my back or leaning back it almost felt like i was puking in my mouth but i really don't know still if i was or not, so i start dry heaving but i think i was just tripping out really hard or maybe it was mixing the alcohol before, thats wat kinda worried me. I eventually chilled out bc i took another bar, in total of 2.5 xanax bars that night.
Overall it was one of the most amazing, colorful, emotional, ego death ahah, and beautiful trip i have ever experienced in my entire life of doing research chemicals, I don't not think this chemical has gotten much credit and it should because it is very easy on your body and safer than other NBOMes I fell like, eventhough none are safe. I think i might just pop 3 next time hahah. I hope this helped anybody looking for information on this chemical. Be safe fellow psychonauts!! Please have more reports with this unique chemical.
@captainhaddock
25n-nbome is fucking awesome. I've heard it feels like 2cb with the visuals of DON. I've never done those drugs. I've consumed Trichocereus bridgesii in decent levels, around 2 feet. I took two hits of 25n-nbome (I would guess the hits were about 700 micrograms, I'll have to check with the guy, I think he said 700 micrograms). It reminded me of the feeling of 25i-nbome, the feeling of mdma in high doses, the stimulation of Trichocereus Bridgesii with visuals reminiscent of Trichocereus bridgesii cactus at points but very unique compared to the visuals I've had from anything before. The visuals were more on the comedown but very fucking vivid. I've heard it compared to Dmt visuals and I guess I could see that because of the richecet of duplicates of objects with an arcade machine glow effect, but it most certainly had the nbome flavor. The visuals were reminiscent of very high dose mda but just fucking crazier. I'd say from the dose I had it was like being really fucking high from 25i-nbome, lsd perhaps, trichocereus bridgesii, bk-mdma, and mda (very little bodyload to speak of, some vaso-coconstriction but not anymore than with other nbomes or from mescaline). My two cents worth. I've heard people discredit 25n-nbome and I personally find that to be blasphemy. 25n might be my favorite nbmome so far. (I've done 25i, 25c, and 25n)
@adder
All I can add to my over half-a-year old report is just as you can easily say that 2C-N leaves you rather totally unsatisfied in terms of visuals and some concrete psychedelic effects compared with e.g. 2C-B or 2C-I, here you can say 25N-NBOMe is hardly "expressive" as a member of -NBOMe series. It's really light in bodyload vs. 25B-NBOMe or 25I-NBOMe, there aren't really that strong and vivid hallucinations, there's just that overall NBOMe feeling of euphoria and some stimulation like mentioned. Anyway, keep in mind I may not need much as I weigh 128 lb / 58 kg and I'm 5.84 ft / 178 cm tall, I'm underweight. I didn't go for a larger dose because I haven't seen anything more there, maybe I was wrong and somewhere in the 700-1000mcg region it's better but I doubt that. If anything from the NBOMe series has been kind of an unexpected success, it's 25C-NBOMe.
Concerning little info on 25N-NBOMe, I'm not really surprised. 2C-N never became a popular psychedelic and a nitro group is a dead end. I guess based on SAR it was also known that this analogue won't be any better. It's not really a matter of synthesis. My 25N-NBOMe was straight from the lab but it's definitely not synthesized on a larger scale although in Poland all of these NBOMe chemicals are perfectly fine with the law as we've got no analogues acts so every drugs needs its own entry to be considered controlled (not counting different salts and sometimes esters etc.).
@bigspaceship
Warning, long story. 26M for the record.
I discovered psychedelics give or take 6 years ago, when a friend brought some 25N-NBOMe from another country. Back at the time I had no idea what the hell is an NBOMe. My experience with drugs was limited to alcohol (which I disliked) and weed (which I hated). Needless to say, a psychedelic trip was absolutely mind blowing for me at the time. Amazing visuals, euphoria, no signs of anything that could be called "body load" - just straight awesomeness. I really fell in love with the things psychedelics can show you.
We didn't use much, the tripping was limited to approximately once per 4-5 months. No heroic dosages either. The 25N quickly ran out, so we proceeded to order some 25C and 25I. (Note that 5 years ago it was still in the grey market area). Cheap as fuck and still great. I liked 25C better just because 25I took a bit too long to come up for my tastes, but with either of them I had great profound trips, chilling, listening to music, taking walks at the beach and the usual.
The first problems began give or take 3 years ago, when I discovered reddit, erowid etc. Basically I read all the NBOMe horror stories. Deaths? Check. Seizures? Check. Uncomfortable body load? Check. I kinda knew that I am far out of the "heroic" territory, with my largest dose taken per evening around 1200mcg of 25C, spaced over 5 hours. But I started to notice things which I barely paid attention to before. Chills, hot flashes, muscle twitches, tension. Focusing on them a bit unraveled all the other "bad effects" - chest tightness, gastric discomfort. I am still pretty sure that that would never happen if nobody would have told me. The trips were just getting worse. Nothing special, nothing mentally torturing and horrifying, but I was just uncomfortable in my body and the euphoria ceased to appear. I haven't had a single "bad trip", just "mediocre" ones when I would be walking around too uncomfortable to enjoy things.
I then made a healthy well-informed democratic decision to cease with the NBOMes altogether and just get LSD instead. Haven't taken an NBOMe in the last 2-3 years. Unfortunately, this hasn't cured the issue. A few times LSD worked like the original trips, then I just started noticing the same unpleasant things on LSD as well. Shrooms didn't help as well. The last time I did some 25mg's of 2C-B and still have the same problem - yeah, I got some visuals (with zero headspace though), but I just felt physically uncomfortable.
Over the last years I have also developed some general anxiety accompanying me all the time. Not crippling, but just some small background that doesn't interfere with my actions but just takes a bit of fun away from everyday life. And the anxiety just gets stronger when thinking about doing drugs. The idea of dropping some psychs in the evening makes me anxious instead of excited now. I tried preloading my trips with 0.25 of alprazolam, that helps a bit but still no euphoria. The only drug I tried recently that really worked its magic was MDA, but doh, of course. And even dropping this MDA pill (was my first time) made me anxious for 4 hours before dropping and then a full hour of panic until it started working.
I am healthy, do lots of sports, have a nice job and great relationships. My drug use is still on the order of once every 3-5 months. I don't drink, I don't smoke weed, don't engage in benzo abuse. But I still can't fucking have a nice trip because I feel uncomfortable.
Dear bluelight, I want my magic back. Make tripping great again. Can you give me any advice on how to deal with this? What should I do/think/take to finally relax, forget the horror stories and enjoy myself tripping balls?
TL/DR Read too much horror stories, can't enjoy tripping now.
@psykap
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As for me 25N is the most light phenethylamines from NBOMe-series for body . I didnt noticed any negative effects , it was more slight than 25C/25D in my opinion. Nothing nausea , adrenergic effect , feeling of anxiety , muscle tensions . I was surprised by the lightness of this compound.
This one took me a couple times to actually enjoy it. It isnt at all what I was expecting... I feel its perfect for going out and about, which is the opposite of how I feel on any other 25x.
The first couple times I sat home and was prepared for a hard trip (1.4mg) and I didnt enjoy it. But when I took it at the 4th of july fair last year I had a blast, seemed like everything was perfect..
moving around and socializing felt awesome and seemed to make me trip harder. Needless to say I love going out on it, definitly a fun party drug (for me anyway)
With 25i/c/b I prefer to stay home and trip out either with a few close friends or with my gf. I feel uncomfortable around others (i being the eexception, on lower doses I can function well but prefer to be home)
All in all its a good chem, im glad I have it in my collection. Oh and yes it def does dye my paper like a rusy orange/yellow, I think thays pretty neat actually
@RCJoJo
I tried 25N-NBOMe at 1000mcg and liked it most of all the NBOMe's I tried. For me it was very active in the visual field(eyes open) and quite euphoric with little to no noticeable body load.
I should add that I liked 25I-NBOMe least of all. The body load was just much too much for my taste and made the entire experience un-enjoyable for me.
@RCJoJo
25N-NBOMe, Definitely my favorite NBOMe. No body load and very enjoyable, visually stimulating trip.
25B-NBOMe was my second favorite. Manageable body load and nice OEVs.
25C-NBOMe for me seemed very similar to it's 2C-C counterpart.
25I-NBOMe, I would say this was my least favorite of the NBOMe's. The body load was very uncomfortable and ruined the experience for me.
@spacetrippin
took 4 tabs at 11 at night,this was a almost pitch black trip, in my room, had lights from windows coming threw bed room,and from the beginning i dont remember much beside visuals so strong i was barley able to look at phone and change sounds soo i basicly only got one song from the whole trip, it was some shpongle song,wishhh i had rembered more of it,but the main visuals that i can recall Were going down stairs little fairys with like signs couldent see what the said but all in ny feild of visuan till getting downstairs and these visuals were have much more spark too time. Then any of the nbomes,also on same jurney too fridge i got completely lost in my own house the visuals were soo strong could not see the damn doors around me
I wish id rember more but it was soo hectic and dark it was hard to till this one
But duritation was 5 hours, wayyy better then and nbome and 2c ive ever tookin and noo bodyload or anxity this ones a winner deff a level 4 trip will report another in same dose in the light
@spacetrippin
25b actually felt the most dangerous of all nbomes I have tryed, 25i too and then 25c next, the only good nbome is 25n
The rest are just good for the visuals
25n brings visuals and a safe mind set
Little off topic but yeah I've got a lot of exp with nbomes and some of those experiences are not good
I'm lucky too be alive
And prolly will never take them agian
@spacetrippin
Idk bout don to compare too but, 25n compared to the other nbomes its best hands down, visuals, bodyload, this one is a winner
@Anon0631
I'm just finishing a trial of 450ug of uncomplexed 25n-NBOMe taken buccally on a (bright yellow) blotter. Overall this experience was too light for me - about equal to 10-12mg of insufflated 2c-b. A nice way to warm up an evening but not really enough to judge the nature of the drug. Although I only reached a +, edging onto ++ at the peak, it showed some promise. It has none of the introspection or stimulation of 25d, in fact in many ways it's the opposite. It's different in nature to 25c. Although it shares the emotional warmth it's missing the spark of the chlorinated version.
The main effects were a general psychedelic cosiness and very nice body/skin feelings. I can see why a previous poster said it would make a good club drug. The best way to describe it is a relaxed energy, not urgent or speedy at all.
Chatting online I found it easy to open up to a stranger and really bare myself in a confident and relaxed way. At this dose it's hardly visual and has minimal interpretative effects although I did keep thinking that the characters on my phone keyboard were in a foreign alphabet. Then I would look closely and it would be obviously English. Subtle changes in perception which amuse rather than arouse.
There was a bowel movement at the beginning of the experiment and some very mild nausea throughout but this could have been due to eating too many samosas, ladoos and kachuris about an hour before coming up.
In an odd way I could see this substituting for a few lines of coke during an evening at home with close friends. Another way of describing it might be the 5-meo-mipt of the NBOMe's.
For me the jury is out on this until I try it at a higher dose but I'm eager to step it up and see where it takes me.
@Anon0631
I would say that all of them are light on body load with the exception of stimulation. The most stimulating ones are 25d and 25i. The least stimulating is 25c. 25b and 25n fall somewhere in the middle.
I haven't tried 25e, 25p, 25t/t2/t7 and 25g yet so I can't comment on those.
@Anon0631
I would avoid 25i too. I would have a casual affair with 25n though - nothing serious, mainly for the novelty.
@Anon0631
Starting dosages for each compound. Use these to judge the relative dosage levels between compounds (IE. if you know that 1mg 25i-NBOMe is the sweet spot for you, divide 1000 by 600 and then multiply the result by 350 to find the suggested dosage for 25c-NBOMe):
25b - 500µg
25n - 500µg
25c - 350µg
25d - 850µg
25i - 600µg
@pihkal77
I usually don't have time to post trip reports but I feel like I should post this report bc there is not much information on this NBOMe
I have had experiences with Marijuana, Shrooms, LSD, Methylone, 2C-e, 2C-p, 2-C-t2, 4-meo-mipt, MDMA, Amphetimines (many stimulants), 25i-NBOMe, 25c-NBOMe, Xanax, Klonopin, Nitrous, Pain, Spice, Ethylone, and 25n-NBOMe and I don't take any medication like SSRIs or anythingI have had 25n-NBOMe around 4 to 5 times before this experience but Never this profound, oh and i must add this NBOMe is one of the cleanest in the family like 25c on body load but have Xanax on hand. But like every NBOMe you should wait 2 weeks before you trip if you want to have a mind blowing experience, which is how i had this one.
Ok so I popped 4 hits (around 1mg on each blotter) after i had taken a white Xanax bar and 2 shots of jack Daniels an hour earlier.
1:00am to 1:38am i held the botters in my mouth without swallowing for that entire time (round 40 mins) but had to take them out bc it was getting overwhelming and time distortion was absolutely insane, my brother had friends over that night so i had to stay in my room and go to crazy town, and at one point it was hard to see i literally there was egyptian like patterns flying everywhere, it was on of the most colorful and detailed trips i had ever experienced in my life. I was looking at the ceiling and it was colorful and filled with egyptain like patterns coming down at my face, tracers were insane shadows of myself when i walked looked like someone was behind me. so what i feel like is 6 hours i look at the time and it was only 3 O' Clock! I went to the bathroom and looked into the mirror and i have never had so many visuals in my life they were everywhere it was simply amazing, I then go outside to smoke a bowl with a friend and this guy had done this chemical many many many times but he's kinda socially awkward but a very nice and cool dude, but I have never had such an ego death from tripping so hard it was so hard to communicate with him and i thought i would get stuck like this and he was weird because of the chemical haha. So after he leaves (around 4) I take another half of a xanax bar and go back outside to look at the stars, this is where things got completely insane as im smoking the entire sky is filled with dragons (like a egyptain patterns) all connected in the sky it was so beautiful i was listening to pink floyd all night and it was a really deep trip especially the song Echoes, bc i had been going through alot of bad things in my life (3.5 year relationship gone to almost being throw out of my house and drug charges pending on me), But listing to pink floyd just made me literally cry tears of joy when i was seeing all this beauty, it was pure Ecstasy, this chemical was blissful like LSD and MDMA . I could still keep myself together mentally but thoughts raced through my head like crazy and it was hard to stay focused on one thing. But later around 5 i began to kinda get scared because i didn't know if it was bad to mix Xanax and NBOMes together eventhough i had done it many times in the past and never had a problem but i called some ppl kinda worried asking them if i should take them. But when i was on my back or leaning back it almost felt like i was puking in my mouth but i really don't know still if i was or not, so i start dry heaving but i think i was just tripping out really hard or maybe it was mixing the alcohol before, thats wat kinda worried me. I eventually chilled out bc i took another bar, in total of 2.5 xanax bars that night.
Overall it was one of the most amazing, colorful, emotional, ego death ahah, and beautiful trip i have ever experienced in my entire life of doing research chemicals, I don't not think this chemical has gotten much credit and it should because it is very easy on your body and safer than other NBOMes I fell like, eventhough none are safe. I think i might just pop 3 next time hahah. I hope this helped anybody looking for information on this chemical. Be safe fellow psychonauts!! Please have more reports with this unique chemical.
@captainhaddock
25n-nbome is fucking awesome. I've heard it feels like 2cb with the visuals of DON. I've never done those drugs. I've consumed Trichocereus bridgesii in decent levels, around 2 feet. I took two hits of 25n-nbome (I would guess the hits were about 700 micrograms, I'll have to check with the guy, I think he said 700 micrograms). It reminded me of the feeling of 25i-nbome, the feeling of mdma in high doses, the stimulation of Trichocereus Bridgesii with visuals reminiscent of Trichocereus bridgesii cactus at points but very unique compared to the visuals I've had from anything before. The visuals were more on the comedown but very fucking vivid. I've heard it compared to Dmt visuals and I guess I could see that because of the richecet of duplicates of objects with an arcade machine glow effect, but it most certainly had the nbome flavor. The visuals were reminiscent of very high dose mda but just fucking crazier. I'd say from the dose I had it was like being really fucking high from 25i-nbome, lsd perhaps, trichocereus bridgesii, bk-mdma, and mda (very little bodyload to speak of, some vaso-coconstriction but not anymore than with other nbomes or from mescaline). My two cents worth. I've heard people discredit 25n-nbome and I personally find that to be blasphemy. 25n might be my favorite nbmome so far. (I've done 25i, 25c, and 25n)
@adder
All I can add to my over half-a-year old report is just as you can easily say that 2C-N leaves you rather totally unsatisfied in terms of visuals and some concrete psychedelic effects compared with e.g. 2C-B or 2C-I, here you can say 25N-NBOMe is hardly "expressive" as a member of -NBOMe series. It's really light in bodyload vs. 25B-NBOMe or 25I-NBOMe, there aren't really that strong and vivid hallucinations, there's just that overall NBOMe feeling of euphoria and some stimulation like mentioned. Anyway, keep in mind I may not need much as I weigh 128 lb / 58 kg and I'm 5.84 ft / 178 cm tall, I'm underweight. I didn't go for a larger dose because I haven't seen anything more there, maybe I was wrong and somewhere in the 700-1000mcg region it's better but I doubt that. If anything from the NBOMe series has been kind of an unexpected success, it's 25C-NBOMe.
Concerning little info on 25N-NBOMe, I'm not really surprised. 2C-N never became a popular psychedelic and a nitro group is a dead end. I guess based on SAR it was also known that this analogue won't be any better. It's not really a matter of synthesis. My 25N-NBOMe was straight from the lab but it's definitely not synthesized on a larger scale although in Poland all of these NBOMe chemicals are perfectly fine with the law as we've got no analogues acts so every drugs needs its own entry to be considered controlled (not counting different salts and sometimes esters etc.).
@bigspaceship
Warning, long story. 26M for the record.
I discovered psychedelics give or take 6 years ago, when a friend brought some 25N-NBOMe from another country. Back at the time I had no idea what the hell is an NBOMe. My experience with drugs was limited to alcohol (which I disliked) and weed (which I hated). Needless to say, a psychedelic trip was absolutely mind blowing for me at the time. Amazing visuals, euphoria, no signs of anything that could be called "body load" - just straight awesomeness. I really fell in love with the things psychedelics can show you.
We didn't use much, the tripping was limited to approximately once per 4-5 months. No heroic dosages either. The 25N quickly ran out, so we proceeded to order some 25C and 25I. (Note that 5 years ago it was still in the grey market area). Cheap as fuck and still great. I liked 25C better just because 25I took a bit too long to come up for my tastes, but with either of them I had great profound trips, chilling, listening to music, taking walks at the beach and the usual.
The first problems began give or take 3 years ago, when I discovered reddit, erowid etc. Basically I read all the NBOMe horror stories. Deaths? Check. Seizures? Check. Uncomfortable body load? Check. I kinda knew that I am far out of the "heroic" territory, with my largest dose taken per evening around 1200mcg of 25C, spaced over 5 hours. But I started to notice things which I barely paid attention to before. Chills, hot flashes, muscle twitches, tension. Focusing on them a bit unraveled all the other "bad effects" - chest tightness, gastric discomfort. I am still pretty sure that that would never happen if nobody would have told me. The trips were just getting worse. Nothing special, nothing mentally torturing and horrifying, but I was just uncomfortable in my body and the euphoria ceased to appear. I haven't had a single "bad trip", just "mediocre" ones when I would be walking around too uncomfortable to enjoy things.
I then made a healthy well-informed democratic decision to cease with the NBOMes altogether and just get LSD instead. Haven't taken an NBOMe in the last 2-3 years. Unfortunately, this hasn't cured the issue. A few times LSD worked like the original trips, then I just started noticing the same unpleasant things on LSD as well. Shrooms didn't help as well. The last time I did some 25mg's of 2C-B and still have the same problem - yeah, I got some visuals (with zero headspace though), but I just felt physically uncomfortable.
Over the last years I have also developed some general anxiety accompanying me all the time. Not crippling, but just some small background that doesn't interfere with my actions but just takes a bit of fun away from everyday life. And the anxiety just gets stronger when thinking about doing drugs. The idea of dropping some psychs in the evening makes me anxious instead of excited now. I tried preloading my trips with 0.25 of alprazolam, that helps a bit but still no euphoria. The only drug I tried recently that really worked its magic was MDA, but doh, of course. And even dropping this MDA pill (was my first time) made me anxious for 4 hours before dropping and then a full hour of panic until it started working.
I am healthy, do lots of sports, have a nice job and great relationships. My drug use is still on the order of once every 3-5 months. I don't drink, I don't smoke weed, don't engage in benzo abuse. But I still can't fucking have a nice trip because I feel uncomfortable.
Dear bluelight, I want my magic back. Make tripping great again. Can you give me any advice on how to deal with this? What should I do/think/take to finally relax, forget the horror stories and enjoy myself tripping balls?
TL/DR Read too much horror stories, can't enjoy tripping now.
@psykap
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As for me 25N is the most light phenethylamines from NBOMe-series for body . I didnt noticed any negative effects , it was more slight than 25C/25D in my opinion. Nothing nausea , adrenergic effect , feeling of anxiety , muscle tensions . I was surprised by the lightness of this compound.
I wish i could see pure "yellowish" or "yellow wish" stuff on the markets again.
Its synthesis from 2C-H is pretty easy, with nitration step being similar in workup to bromination, even easier.
Considering (temporary) legal availability of aldehyde and even nitrostyrene precursors for cheap, new Psychedelic Renaissance is fully in your hands.
Make NBOMes, not bombs.
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nbombs, such a shame they got all that hate and bad rep still lingering over them from propagandistic US-"news" back in like 2010(?)