AB Extraction question

[Cardboard1234]

I’ve followed the guidelines in AB Extraction and I’ve arrived at the end product. I’m not sure if what I have is correct as it does not look like the powder form end result as shown in pictures. Instead I have this gooey paste that I’m currently waiting to dry up. Does anyone know if this is normal? I’ve washed it with acetone already.

 

[sorena2316]

Hello, the correct amount is 1.10, that is, it should be ten times of sulfuric acid so that the color is not red. The easiest way to use 37% hydrochloric acid

 

[cokemuffin]

Hello, the correct amount is 1.10, that is, it should be ten times of sulfuric acid so that the color is not red. The easiest way to use 37% hydrochloric acid

sorena2316You have to use HCl gas to aquire dry amphetamine HCl, 37% will just result in a mess

 

[HerrHaber]

You have to use HCl gas to aquire dry amphetamine HCl, 37% will just result in a mess

cokemuffinas far as I know only sulphate and phosphate are adequate and amphetamine hydrochloride is said to be so hygroscopic it only exists in aqueous solution... if you used HCl to make the salt no wonder it will never be dry enough to use (it can be solid in the dessicator but outside in the open it will absorb moisture from the ambient)

 

[cokemuffin]

as far as I know only sulphate and phosphate are adequate and amphetamine hydrochloride is said to be so hygroscopic it only exists in aqueous solution... if you used HCl to make the salt no wonder it will never be dry enough to use (it can be solid in the dessicator but outside in the open it will absorb moisture from the ambient)

HerrHaber1st of all your statement is wrong, amphetamine HCl can be made in the form of crystals too, just not with aqueous HCl... that's why i said you have to use HCl gas, 37% HCl will result in a mess (if you still don't get it, bubble dry HCl gas into a solution of amphetamine base in a solvent). I don't know why anyone would go for the HCl salt in the first place, so if you wanna know ask the guy who suggested 37% HCl. I'm pretty sure that if you ask him nicely, he will share his patent about speed slime from aqueous HCl with you. 2nd I thought that everyone who's trying to give advice already knows what the sulphate and phosphate salts are, sry that i didn't mention several salts while having a Conversation about the hydrochloride. 3rd yes the hydrochloride is hygroscopic, but you don't have to treat it like it's Raney Nickel. A second normal air exposure wont turn it into a puddle.

 

[HerrHaber]

1st of all your statement is wrong, amphetamine HCl can be made in the form of crystals too, just not with aqueous HCl... that's why i said you have to use HCl gas, 37% HCl will result in a mess (if you still don't get it, bubble dry HCl gas into a solution of amphetamine base in a solvent). I don't know why anyone would go for the HCl salt in the first place, so if you wanna know ask the guy who suggested 37% HCl. I'm pretty sure that if you ask him nicely, he will share his patent about speed slime from aqueous HCl with you. 2nd I thought that everyone who's trying to give advice already knows what the sulphate and phosphate salts are, sry that i didn't mention several salts while having a Conversation about the hydrochloride. 3rd yes the hydrochloride is hygroscopic, but you don't have to treat it like it's Raney Nickel. A second normal air exposure wont turn it into a puddle.

cokemuffinOk, my bad then... when i started (well over a decade ago when I was a biochemistry undergrad) I was made to understand that the hydrochloride of this speciffic compound is by no means worth frustrating myself trying to make. I am well aware that for our common interst amines hydrochloride is the first thing to try (at least when performing preparative research on new materials)

 

[cokemuffin]

Ok, my bad then... when i started (well over a decade ago when I was a biochemistry undergrad) I was made to understand that the hydrochloride of this speciffic compound is by no means worth frustrating myself trying to make. I am well aware that for our common interst amines hydrochloride is the first thing to try (at least when performing preparative research on new materials)

HerrHaberYou're right, HCl salt is not worth it in the stated scenario, but you replied to a comment of me in which i only clarified that you can't use aqueous HCl or you'll get a mess and instead should use HCl gas for hydrochloride. For amphetamine the sulphate salt and specific phosphate salts are way superior, but my goal right here was just to correct the wrong information that kid is spreading.

 

[Cardboard1234]

Thanks for the tip guys, I’ll experiment around with different ratios and see what works best. I couldn’t find in the forum regards to how I can dry up wet amphetamines though. I’m thinking of putting the wet amphs in a sealed container separated with MgSO4. Would that work? I’ve tried drying it overnight in the room but it still looks wet.

 

[G.Patton]

Thanks for the tip guys, I’ll experiment around with different ratios and see what works best. I couldn’t find in the forum regards to how I can dry up wet amphetamines though. I’m thinking of putting the wet amphs in a sealed container separated with MgSO4. Would that work? I’ve tried drying it overnight in the room but it still looks wet.

Cardboard1234As @HerrHaber said, use Vacuum desiccator for your issue.