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What has motivated you to make this forum?
JackWe plan to make money on advertising of DNM and chemical reagents.

With the receipt of funds in our budget, we will become even better. We plan to create:
- chemical and pharmacological studies of substances.
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We plan to make money on advertising of DNM and chemical reagents.

With the receipt of funds in our budget, we will become even better. We plan to create:
- chemical and pharmacological studies of substances.
- reviews of laboratory equipment.
- video instructions for the synthesis of substances.
- reagent testing service (will be engaged in the purchase and testing of reagents)
HEISENBERGNice to see you at least got a plan. Most forums like this just exist only to disappear later with no funding. Especially I like the idea of reagent testing. Most people can't buy spectrometers and can't imagine sending their samples to a public lab. I mean what if they found out it's drugs right?
 

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Nice to see you at least got a plan. Most forums like this just exist only to disappear later with no funding. Especially I like the idea of reagent testing. Most people can't buy spectrometers and can't imagine sending their samples to a public lab. I mean what if they found out it's drugs right?
Never to sleepI send mine to Solaris analytical.
He does his job and it’s only 40$. I just send cash and what you suspect sample is to tune his spec. Just email him and ask where to send sample. Upon mailing a couple mgs just politely ask him to please report findings to your email.. so just need an email for correspondence. Nothing more.
Not sure as if he appreciates me putting him on blast here but his job he was well recommend for his lack of bias. It’s his job. He does testing and it far as I know the only way you’re gonna get rejected is if you’re being stupid. He Doesn’t judge and seems willing to answer questions. As long as you’re not putting him in the line of. Fire. So, be respectful and mindful of that folks.
 

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I believe it was our scammer in residence, I also think anyone he scams that he meets here will be locked out similarly to prevent them from telling about how he scammed them
 

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I would love to see a thread dedicated to otc precursors and solvents. I was looking at epoxy resin hardeners earlier and several of them sounded like precursors. It would be great to have a list
 

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HEISENBERGIn your videos, you say you're licensed to make the narcotics and precursors in the videos you publish. What exactly do you do for a living? What kind of license do you have? And why do you do everything on such large scales? (Don't get me wrong, I love the large scale synth, It just makes me wonder what in gods name do you need so much of it for).
 

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Okay I have two questions regarding the fisher indole rxn for DMT vs 5-meo-DMT. One question regarding the masked aldehydes protected as the diethyl acetal derivatives and another question regarding the a organic solvent used to extract the free base from the acidic aq. soln.

Question 1: are the protected aldehydes used in both indole rnxs the same (DMT vs 5-meo-dmt)?

1. 5-MEO-DMT (this info was taken from a thread created by @William Dampier (http://bbzzzsvqcrqtki6umym6itiixfhn...synthesis-of-5‐meo-dmt-via-fischer-indole.11/)

In this rxn, they use 4,4-diethoxy-N,N-dimethyl-butan-1-amine (CAS Number: 1116-77-4 ) and 4-methoxyphenylhydrazine hydrochloride

2. DMT (this info as taken from a thread created by @halohydrin (xmrhfasfg5suueegrnc4gsgyi2tyclcy5oz7f5drnrodmdtob6t2ioyd.onion/)

In this rxn, they use (N,N-dimethylamino)butanal diethyl acetal (CAS Number: 1116-77-4)

Now... it seems as thought the only differences in these two fisher indoles (DMT vs 5-MEO-DMT) are the types of phenylhydrazines used. So then, im assuming CAS Number: 1116-77-4 can be used for both? I guess I just answered my own question, but just need confirmation. I accidentally ordered a close cousin of CAS Number: 1116-77-4, 4-(N,N-Dimethylamino)butanal Dimethyl Acetal (CAS 19718-92-4).

Question 2: Solvents used for tryptamine extractions
From the 5-meo-dmt procedure,

"13. The suspension was extracted with 2-MeTHF (3x1.45 L, 10.0 vol); following each extraction, the layers were allowed to settle for 15 min, the lower alkaline water layer was separated into a drum, and the upper organic layer was collected.
14. The lower aqueous layer was discarded and the combined 2-MeTHF organic layers were transferred to a 20 L-flask.
15. The solution was concentrated in vacuo to an oily amber residue.
16. Residual water was removed azeotropically by redissolving the residue with fresh 2-MeTHF (1.45 L, 10 vol) and repeating the concentration step.
17. This oily residue was dried on the rotatory evaporator under vacuum (10−20 mbar) for 1 h at 40−45 *C to provide 117.68 g (64.9% theoretical yield) of crude 5-MeO-DMT freebase."

From the DMT procedure:


"9. suspension is extracted with 3*1.45 L 2-Me-THF, which can be substituted by isopropyl acetate or DCM.
10, The organic layers ar combined and solvented is striped off by distillation. The remaining oily residue is redissolved in solvent and reconcentrated (to remove water azeotrope)."

Can this same substitution be applied to extracting the 5-meo-dmt freebase and are there solvents that can be used (I know certain solvents can actual form unwanted intermediates).

-I do not want to use 2-me-thf since its pricey (although I did use it for the 5-meo-dmt freebase extraction procedure but ended up with a thick oil, which when vaporized, it was for sure 5-meo-dmt
-I tried using isopropyl acetate for the DMT free base, but for the love of god it takes AGES to evaporate!! I left it in the vacuum oven at 30-40 mbarr for 24 hours and 75% of it evaporated. I even put it in the roto vap at 1MPa at 40C for 3 hours...it did evaporate a little. Then I said fuck it and cranked the water bath to 86C and it still would not evaporate!!

Some solutions:

extract the DMT freebase in the isopropyl acetate solution (assuming i didnt vaporize the rest of the DMT freebase lol) DCM from the isoporpyl acetate solution) with DCM. I would have to compare the partition coefficients with the two solvents with respect to DMT

Start over and use DCM for the extraction.
 

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Okay I have two questions regarding the fisher indole rxn for DMT vs 5-meo-DMT. One question regarding the masked aldehydes protected as the diethyl acetal derivatives and another question regarding the a organic solvent used to extract the free base from the acidic aq. soln.

Question 1: are the protected aldehydes used in both indole rnxs the same (DMT vs 5-meo-dmt)?

1. 5-MEO-DMT (this info was taken from a thread created by @William Dampier (http://bbzzzsvqcrqtki6umym6itiixfhn...synthesis-of-5‐meo-dmt-via-fischer-indole.11/)

In this rxn, they use 4,4-diethoxy-N,N-dimethyl-butan-1-amine (CAS Number: 1116-77-4 ) and 4-methoxyphenylhydrazine hydrochloride

2. DMT (this info as taken from a thread created by @halohydrin (xmrhfasfg5suueegrnc4gsgyi2tyclcy5oz7f5drnrodmdtob6t2ioyd.onion/)

In this rxn, they use (N,N-dimethylamino)butanal diethyl acetal (CAS Number: 1116-77-4)

Now... it seems as thought the only differences in these two fisher indoles (DMT vs 5-MEO-DMT) are the types of phenylhydrazines used. So then, im assuming CAS Number: 1116-77-4 can be used for both? I guess I just answered my own question, but just need confirmation. I accidentally ordered a close cousin of CAS Number: 1116-77-4, 4-(N,N-Dimethylamino)butanal Dimethyl Acetal (CAS 19718-92-4).

Question 2: Solvents used for tryptamine extractions
From the 5-meo-dmt procedure,

"13. The suspension was extracted with 2-MeTHF (3x1.45 L, 10.0 vol); following each extraction, the layers were allowed to settle for 15 min, the lower alkaline water layer was separated into a drum, and the upper organic layer was collected.
14. The lower aqueous layer was discarded and the combined 2-MeTHF organic layers were transferred to a 20 L-flask.
15. The solution was concentrated in vacuo to an oily amber residue.
16. Residual water was removed azeotropically by redissolving the residue with fresh 2-MeTHF (1.45 L, 10 vol) and repeating the concentration step.
17. This oily residue was dried on the rotatory evaporator under vacuum (10−20 mbar) for 1 h at 40−45 *C to provide 117.68 g (64.9% theoretical yield) of crude 5-MeO-DMT freebase."

From the DMT procedure:


"9. suspension is extracted with 3*1.45 L 2-Me-THF, which can be substituted by isopropyl acetate or DCM.
10, The organic layers ar combined and solvented is striped off by distillation. The remaining oily residue is redissolved in solvent and reconcentrated (to remove water azeotrope)."

Can this same substitution be applied to extracting the 5-meo-dmt freebase and are there solvents that can be used (I know certain solvents can actual form unwanted intermediates).

-I do not want to use 2-me-thf since its pricey (although I did use it for the 5-meo-dmt freebase extraction procedure but ended up with a thick oil, which when vaporized, it was for sure 5-meo-dmt
-I tried using isopropyl acetate for the DMT free base, but for the love of god it takes AGES to evaporate!! I left it in the vacuum oven at 30-40 mbarr for 24 hours and 75% of it evaporated. I even put it in the roto vap at 1MPa at 40C for 3 hours...it did evaporate a little. Then I said fuck it and cranked the water bath to 86C and it still would not evaporate!!

Some solutions:

extract the DMT freebase in the isopropyl acetate solution (assuming i didnt vaporize the rest of the DMT freebase lol) DCM from the isoporpyl acetate solution) with DCM. I would have to compare the partition coefficients with the two solvents with respect to DMT

Start over and use DCM for the extraction.
hello1321
Question 1: are the protected aldehydes used in both indole rnxs the same (DMT vs 5-meo-dmt)?
Yes, same.
Question 2: Solvents used for tryptamine extractions
Have you tried just THF? I haven't tried, just thoughts.
 

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forgive me, not really related to forum,but i wonder this.who or what is behind videos being made unavailable on youtube?not referring to bb videos,but i notice other chemistry channels i use to learn are having unavailable videos.is this brought on by viewers reports?or by youtube admin.itself?thanku....
 

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Hello 👋… what is the Ph of PMK … not the glycidate but regular PMK..
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Hello. At first, many thanks for your work. Could you explain the production 3cmc?
. I have reagents:
2b3ch
m40%
dcm
Thank you in advance for your help and best regards
 

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Hello. At first, many thanks for your work. Could you explain the production 3cmc?
. I have reagents:
2b3ch
m40%
dcm
Thank you in advance for your help and best regards
ThomasNo is not the same like mmc u made
 
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Apparently it's just not the same. I've read a lot on this forum and there are different opinions
ThomasMade u will see not only u try.
Im get like it month a go.
I was no hard made but i'm finish chemisty school and for me is much more Simple made like people how never work with chemicals
 

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Made u will see not only u try.
Im get like it month a go.
I was no hard made but i'm finish chemisty school and for me is much more Simple made like people how never work with chemicals
BadBoy😁Respect. Looks very nice. Could you give me some tips? If you can write on PM
 

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😁Respect. Looks very nice. Could you give me some tips? If you can write on PM
 

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Can you tell me how to make mdma moon rock crystals please
 

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Ok I'm sorry I don't know how to navigate through this site but I'll do my best thank you
 
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