can someone tell me what i need to operate a clandestine drug lab [I've read the PDF but can't understand.]

[bluewoods672]

i want to know what i need to operate a clandestine drug lab I've read the PDF about clandestine drug labs but its hard for me to understand
explanations would help me greatly.

 

[G.Patton]

Laboratory FAQ ==>House laboratory establishment

 

[KokosDreams]

First of all the will for research is the most important. This forum offers all information that you need and that you could find yourself, especially when thinking about setting up an operation that could end your life as a free man.

Additionally to the posts by G.Patton, this might help too:

http://bbzzzsvqcrqtki6umym6itiixfhni37ybtt7mkbjyxn2pgllzxf2qgyd.onion/threads/set-up-your-garage-chemistry-lab.639/

 

[bluewoods672]

thank you guys for you're help.

 

[KokosDreams]

thank you guys for you're help.

bluewoods672It just takes time and needs a lot of effort from your side as there are so many aspects.

It's not only about equipment or chemical knowledge but also about building correct infrastructures for supply chain and especially implementing safety to not get caught.

Take your time

 

[Fenster]

If you need to ask that question chances are you shouldn't quit your day job. lol

 

[Fenster]

Why do these stupid questions get answered and good questions get ignored. Are you trying to cultivate a culture of spoon feeding idiots?

 

[KokosDreams]

Why do these stupid questions get answered and good questions get ignored. Are you trying to cultivate a culture of spoon feeding idiots?

FensterI think especially beginner questions need some direct advise like above to guarantee more safety for all involved.

Which of your questions did not got answered? Maybe we can help

 

[melk]

I think especially beginner questions need some direct advise like above to guarantee more safety for all involved.

Which of your questions did not got answered? Maybe we can help

KokosDreams52 only in this topic

Need help convert bmk 5449-12-7 to free base A-oil

Thank you very much, Okay and now to get it clear you have to wash/filter it with dcm right? Thanks don't know from here which stadium you are ? if you mean the P2P I wash it with 1liter boiling water like I describe

bbgate.com

 

[KokosDreams]

52 only in this topic

Need help convert bmk 5449-12-7 to free base A-oil

Thank you very much, Okay and now to get it clear you have to wash/filter it with dcm right? Thanks don't know from here which stadium you are ? if you mean the P2P I wash it with 1liter boiling water like I describe

bbgate.com

melkAs far as I figured there are other problems within this topic, like the basic understanding of chemistry (which I lack too, to an extend) of the ones executing this route or not 100% following advise.

As far as I understood, the way to obtain P2P was explained good enough in this topic and could be executed succesfully, whereas the way from P2P to the final product was referred to aswell, but couldn't be executed so far by the participants of the thread that you linked. Especially for the Leuckart reaction, there is a in depth report in the forum.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, I only remember that this post was not 100% successful for everyone just yet for several reasons. But not necessarily because not all important questions were answered

 

[melk]

As far as I figured there are other problems within this topic, like the basic understanding of chemistry (which I lack too, to an extend) of the ones executing this route or not 100% following advise.

As far as I understood, the way to obtain P2P was explained good enough in this topic and could be executed succesfully, whereas the way from P2P to the final product was referred to aswell, but couldn't be executed so far by the participants of the thread that you linked. Especially for the Leuckart reaction, there is a in depth report in the forum.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, I only remember that this post was not 100% successful for everyone just yet for several reasons. But not necessarily because not all important questions were answered

KokosDreamsP2P is great quality
N-formy is great quality
All questions ask in this topic are for the next step
I know there are (6 people) waiting for advice only for the last step.
And like I read here some days ago
the answer is already posted, but it only needs to decode for the normal user.

Zero users here can decode this picture.

 

[G.Patton]

Why do these stupid questions get answered and good questions get ignored. Are you trying to cultivate a culture of spoon feeding idiots?

FensterHello, respect all forum members and be polite please. We do not accept rude communication in our forum. Everyone deserves to be helped here.

52 only in this topic

Need help convert bmk 5449-12-7 to free base A-oil

Thank you very much, Okay and now to get it clear you have to wash/filter it with dcm right? Thanks don't know from here which stadium you are ? if you mean the P2P I wash it with 1liter boiling water like I describe

bbgate.com

There are same question, I already describe this theme in detached topic P2P synthesis from BMK glycidate ethers

 

[melk]

There are same question, I already describe this theme in detached topic P2P synthesis from BMK glycidate ethers

G.Patton
Hello mister @G.Patton the route you want us to use is for small scale production.
Very expensive chemicals and high risk for buying these chemicals.

therefore, it is needed that we follow these syntheses route here in the picture .
if someone can decrypt this picture, it is possible then to make A-oil from all legal products
no very toxic chemicals required and the cheapest way of creating it .
This is called progress.
I understand that chemical vendors don't like this route.
Make sense.
But I am here to learn it the legal way with no high listed chemicals that are toxic and banned and there for overpriced

 

[melk]

I have a lot of respect for people who really answer a question.
I'm sick of replies linking to other threads. This is not an answer at all, but only good to create confusion.
I understand it can be frustrating when the same question is asked multiple times
but that's part of the job. And answers are always without obligation.

ps: sorry, I thought I was in the topic of A-oil from saul

 

[KokosDreams]

Very expensive chemicals and high risk for buying these chemicals.

no very toxic chemicals required and the cheapest way of creating it .

I understand that chemical vendors don't like this route.
Make sense.
But I am here to learn it the legal way with no high listed chemicals that are toxic and banned and there for overpriced

melkI think once you're looking to do the route that most chemists in the Netherlands are doing in big labs (besides catalystic hydrogenation routes), you will have to deal with very restricted chemicals. From my experience OTC sources do only make the whole process longer, make routes less scalable and sometimes even tend to cost more.

If you are looking for a more ''legal'' way of making freebase or speed, why not look into the NaBH4/CuCL2 route?

I'm sick of replies linking to other threads.

You gotta understand the expert team on this forum too, when you gotta answer questions to thousand of people but they have been posted elsewhere, it is easiest to advise checking where the original information was posted.

Generally speaking all you need for your route is already here in this forum.

1. P2P synthesis from BMK glycidate ethers
2. 1-Phenyl-2-propanone (P2P) Leuckart amination to amphetamine and methamphetamine. Smale scale.

Also, there are some regular users, besides the expert team that has experience with this and could be consulted for it, if necessary. I really don't understand the problem

 

[melk]

If you are looking for a more ''legal'' way of making freebase or speed, why not look into the NaBH4/CuCL2 route?

KokosDreamsNabh4 is banned sir and P2nP is on top off every watch list
also, this route is very expensive .
You got that wrong big labs work with legal products if they can because they are normal priced and legal
why do you think that apaan was the NR 1 chemical from 2009 till 2018 because it was legal and cheep 20€ / kg to buy

 

[melk]

P2nP is controlled like hell, even polish vendors do not list it anymore on their website because off this

you can buy it, but only true private messages for returning customers who don't see it listed anymore.

 

[KokosDreams]

Nabh4 is banned sir and P2nP is on top off every watch list
also, this route is very expensive .

melkhmm what is your target price per liter freebase?
This route could be executed for 300EUR/Liter, for regular people that can not buy tons of precursors it will cost approx. 600EUR/liter which is still okay

You got that wrong big labs work with legal products if they can because they are normal priced and legal

I am sure that those labs that do, do not share their exact routes. Especially not in the internet

P2nP is controlled like hell, even polish vendors do not list it anymore on their website because off this

Where do you got that from? I could easily name a bunch of P2NP vendors right now that sell it publicly, as it is not illegal

 

[melk]

al your answers are correct and P2nP is still legal but not save to order .
the biggest seller in Poland from P2nP recently not listed anymore.
also, when you use the search bar, there are no items to find anymore.
they have a reason for this I guess.

 

[KokosDreams]

al your answers are correct and P2nP is still legal but not save to order .
the biggest seller in Poland from P2nP recently not listed anymore.
also, when you use the search bar, there are no items to find anymore.
they have a reason for this I guess.

melkYeah I guess you're right.

I'd never buy P2NP online though, there are great alternative options to get hands on the product