Cocaine oil

[chefgorden]

Hi all, im New to this group and online stuff. Currently stumbled across this Coke oil that was dropped on my close friend we are trying to work out to extract the Coke from the solution has kerosene or diesel mixed in with it once let settle
Clear liquid separates and fuel rises to the top completely separated once removed all oil layer from clear liquid and shaken clear liquid goes white like milk

Have tried a couple of ways to pull the Coke out one way was dropping pH to pH.6 and and using Pirex dish and grow light to dry out the solution with a desk fan it dried into a crystal like powder and did a crack Coke regent test and a purity test
Come up positive on the crack test but not on the purity which I found was odd Or we only managed to turn it to a crack if someone is in the know of how to fully turn I'll give you 20% of what we yield out of it thanks will be good with some help thanks

Oil resting pH is 10.3ph as was given to my mate.

 

[chemistrydude]

Hi all, im New to this group and online stuff. Currently stumbled across this Coke oil that was dropped on my close friend we are trying to work out to extract the Coke from the solution has kerosene or diesel mixed in with it once let settle
Clear liquid separates and fuel rises to the top completely separated once removed all oil layer from clear liquid and shaken clear liquid goes white like milk

Have tried a couple of ways to pull the Coke out one way was dropping pH to pH.6 and and using Pirex dish and grow light to dry out the solution with a desk fan it dried into a crystal like powder and did a crack Coke regent test and a purity test
Come up positive on the crack test but not on the purity which I found was odd Or we only managed to turn it to a crack if someone is in the know of how to fully turn I'll give you 20% of what we yield out of it thanks will be good with some help thanks

Oil resting pH is 10.3ph as was given to my mate.

chefgordenHmmm lemme explain:
The thing you got is the freebase, as we see there lumps which is makes the purity a bit least then a good purity, would be in lvl like crack, mostly because the purity of coke is smaller then recommended, so lvl of pH should be 5.5-6, you can add sulfuric acid and acetone/ips in portions and add to solution and use litmus paper to see if pH is close to 6.
Now what we do it's the remove most of kerosine remaining or diesel from a solution, it maded by heat up.
After you should let it stay at room temperature for about day even better if it's in fridge/freezer.
After filtrate using vacuum filtration, now wash powder until it would be more clear.
But purity would be for crack.

 

[chefgorden]

Hmmm lemme explain:
The thing you got is the freebase, as we see there lumps which is makes the purity a bit least then a good purity, would be in lvl like crack, mostly because the purity of coke is smaller then recommended, so lvl of pH should be 5.5-6, you can add sulfuric acid and acetone/ips in portions and add to solution and use litmus paper to see if pH is close to 6.
Now what we do it's the remove most of kerosine remaining or diesel from a solution, it maded by heat up.
After you should let it stay at room temperature for about day even better if it's in fridge/freezer.
After filtrate using vacuum filtration, now wash powder until it would be more clear.
But purity would be for crack.

chemistrydudeHow can I turn it to sortable Coke please thanks for the message aswell

 

[cubesquare]

How can I turn it to sortable Coke please thanks for the message aswell

chefgordenI am an expert googler. I found this:

to turn cocaine freebase back to HCl effectively you should prepare a solution of HCl in 95% ethanol sufficient to neutralize your cocaine (1:1 molar, ~1.0 mL concentrated 37% HCl for every 3.0 grams of coke freebase), added dropwise to a solution of freebase in ethanol until pH is neutral, then quickly add a large volume of hexanes/ether/toluene/xylene and crash the crystals out w/a wooden rod. let them settle then filter and collect and dry in vacuum if possible.


you want to minimize the amount of water you introduce, even “concentrated” 37% HCl must be suitably diluted with ethanol. if you can source pure HCl gas in ether or in ethanol/methanol that’s even better. you need to work quickly, preferably with slightly cool solutions. and you absolutely cannot add too much acid or water. do any of these wrong and you will hydrolize the cocaine to benzoylecgonine and friends (inactive).


you can probably get away with using citric acid in ethanol as well. but avoid using water solutions of anything.

(from (CLEAR WEB WARNING) https://www.dialogue.space/turning-freebase-back-to-hcl/

This looks solid to me, I like the advice of staying away from water as it aligns with other advice I have been given about using cocaine HCL in nasal sprays (wasteful, not a great idea in the end it seems).

Many other bits of tek I found mention using distilled water because it cocaine HCL is readily soluble, but the hydrolization is wasteful so if it can be avoided, do it...

 

[cubesquare]

I am an expert googler. I found this:



(from (CLEAR WEB WARNING) https://www.dialogue.space/turning-freebase-back-to-hcl/

This looks solid to me, I like the advice of staying away from water as it aligns with other advice I have been given about using cocaine HCL in nasal sprays (wasteful, not a great idea in the end it seems).

Many other bits of tek I found mention using distilled water because it cocaine HCL is readily soluble, but the hydrolization is wasteful so if it can be avoided, do it...

cubesquareTo add further:
Cocaine recrystalization topic here on the forum had good insight.
The second half of this is very clear for your use:

4.a/b extraction then back to a
Dissolving the cocoa in water then adding ammonia dropwise till cocaine base crashes out of solution then rinse off the cocaine base with water. Then dissolve the cocaine base in ether, then add acetone mixed with hydrocloric acid at the ratio 1:1 until cocaine hcl crashes out the solution and then filter and dry.

Hopefully @chemistrydude can provide some more clarity as I would love to make sure my understanding of thios process is right (I have a few g I want to take though this process soon)

 

[chemistrydude]

To add further:
Cocaine recrystalization topic here on the forum had good insight.
The second half of this is very clear for your use:

Hopefully @chemistrydude can provide some more clarity as I would love to make sure my understanding of thios process is right (I have a few g I want to take though this process soon)

cubesquareOkay, so freebase is alkaline, which should to be neutral it should be on 5,5-6 pH, if you will recrystilise the alkaline solution it would be impossible or possible but the purity would be nightmare it's would be lower then crack, but first of all you need get rocky freebase, it's made be heating up until all cocaine liquid evaporates to a rocks, that you need to smash to a fine powder like baking flour, aka not so pure cocaine freebase paste.
Recrystalization: now you should use ethanol/IPA or if you didn't got them acetone(working but you need anhydrous acetone and make sure it's clean).
Now in beaker add your cocaine freebase powder now add ethanol more recommended, let it dissolve on a small heat, after you see that solution is clean you can now place in fridge, but if you want make more pure, you can dry the solution with MgSO4, after you dried your liquid evaporate the magnesium sulfate now it would be more pure.
Now you got cocaine, but because of magnesium sulfate it helped now it should be consumed like cocaine, but if you still thinking that this is low purity you can turn into crack.

 

[chemistrydude]

Okay, so freebase is alkaline, which should to be neutral it should be on 5,5-6 pH, if you will recrystilise the alkaline solution it would be impossible or possible but the purity would be nightmare it's would be lower then crack, but first of all you need get rocky freebase, it's made be heating up until all cocaine liquid evaporates to a rocks, that you need to smash to a fine powder like baking flour, aka not so pure cocaine freebase paste.
Recrystalization: now you should use ethanol/IPA or if you didn't got them acetone(working but you need anhydrous acetone and make sure it's clean).
Now in beaker add your cocaine freebase powder now add ethanol more recommended, let it dissolve on a small heat, after you see that solution is clean you can now place in fridge, but if you want make more pure, you can dry the solution with MgSO4, after you dried your liquid evaporate the magnesium sulfate now it would be more pure.
Now you got cocaine, but because of magnesium sulfate it helped now it should be consumed like cocaine, but if you still thinking that this is low purity you can turn into crack.

chemistrydudeBut make sure that your cocaine solution would be neutral after you can recrystalise.

 

[idontknownose123]

Okay, so freebase is alkaline, which should to be neutral it should be on 5,5-6 pH, if you will recrystilise the alkaline solution it would be impossible or possible but the purity would be nightmare it's would be lower then crack, but first of all you need get rocky freebase, it's made be heating up until all cocaine liquid evaporates to a rocks, that you need to smash to a fine powder like baking flour, aka not so pure cocaine freebase paste.
Recrystalization: now you should use ethanol/IPA or if you didn't got them acetone(working but you need anhydrous acetone and make sure it's clean).
Now in beaker add your cocaine freebase powder now add ethanol more recommended, let it dissolve on a small heat, after you see that solution is clean you can now place in fridge, but if you want make more pure, you can dry the solution with MgSO4, after you dried your liquid evaporate the magnesium sulfate now it would be more pure.
Now you got cocaine, but because of magnesium sulfate it helped now it should be consumed like cocaine, but if you still thinking that this is low purity you can turn into crack.

chemistrydudeHi for recristalization it works with dietyl ether instead of acetone? And beaker is necesary in this case or can i evaporate the solvent and dry in chambeer?

 

[chefgorden]

Thanks legend

 

[chefgorden]

Still couldn't work it out can one of you brothers write it our step by step please and thanks
Extraction <recrystallisation<sortable Coke that has the shine not a plane flower looking white please

 

[41Dxflatline]

You don't need to pull the cocaine out, you just need to boil away the liquid. Cocaine freebase and hcl are both crystalline solids so first thing I'd do is put it in the freezer and see if any more cocaine drops out of solution and filter it all out that'll get some of it out. Then I'd heat the rest of the liquid up in a water bath until it's all evaporated and you'll be left with whats essentially crack powder. Dissolve your crack powder in acetone and bubble hcl gas through it for snortable cocaine.

Recrystalise by dissolving as much as possible in warm IPA and just let the ipa cool and evaporate

 

[idontknownose123]

You don't need to pull the cocaine out, you just need to boil away the liquid. Cocaine freebase and hcl are both crystalline solids so first thing I'd do is put it in the freezer and see if any more cocaine drops out of solution and filter it all out that'll get some of it out. Then I'd heat the rest of the liquid up in a water bath until it's all evaporated and you'll be left with whats essentially crack powder. Dissolve your crack powder in acetone and bubble hcl gas through it for snortable cocaine.

Recrystalise by dissolving as much as possible in warm IPA and just let the ipa cool and evaporate

41DxflatlineSo if I have snortable cocaine that is pure but dont have fishscale apparence, can i get that apparence through this method? And dissolving in ether or acetone would also be worth?

 

[41Dxflatline]

So if I have snortable cocaine that is pure but dont have fishscale apparence, can i get that apparence through this method? And dissolving in ether or acetone would also be worth?

idontknownose123If its pure snortable cocaine it shouldn't dissolve in acetone or ether, only base cocaine does.

Here's a table:

.2. SOLUBILITY
Form A C E H M W
Base FS VS FS PS FS SS
Hydrochloride VSS FS I I FS FS

A = acetone, C = chloroform, E = ether, H = hexane, M = methanol and W = water, VS = very soluble, FS =
freely soluble, S = soluble, PS = sparingly soluble, SS = slightly soluble, VSS = very slightly soluble and I =
insoluble

The slower you evaporate a solvent the bigger the crystals will grow and the more fishscale like it'll look.

 

[idontknownose123]

If its pure snortable cocaine it shouldn't dissolve in acetone or ether, only base cocaine does.

Here's a table:

.2. SOLUBILITY
Form A C E H M W
Base FS VS FS PS FS SS
Hydrochloride VSS FS I I FS FS

A = acetone, C = chloroform, E = ether, H = hexane, M = methanol and W = water, VS = very soluble, FS =
freely soluble, S = soluble, PS = sparingly soluble, SS = slightly soluble, VSS = very slightly soluble and I =
insoluble

The slower you evaporate a solvent the bigger the crystals will grow and the more fishscale like it'll look.

41DxflatlineSo I should dissolve it in water and evaporate to hace the fishscale appareance? In a mold in a beaker at low heat?

 

[idontknownose123]

So I should dissolve it in water and evaporate to hace the fishscale appareance? In a mold in a beaker at low heat?

idontknownose123Or in a chamber? Please explain me, thanks a lot!

 

[Frit Buchner]

WOW MAN THIS IS GOLD!
Which one of you is uncle festers nephew? I'm kidding Uncle Fester knew what he was doing. I'm going to have to read this 5 more times. If it tested positive for cocaine but negative on a purity check that probably means you've denatured it to ecgonine or some other partially broken molecule. The same test that tests for cocaine gives a positive test for benzoylecgonine, ecgonine methyl ester, meta-hydroxybenzoylecgonine, para-hydroxybenzoylecgonine, and norbenzoylecgonine.

 

[41Dxflatline]

WOW MAN THIS IS GOLD!
Which one of you is uncle festers nephew? I'm kidding Uncle Fester knew what he was doing. I'm going to have to read this 5 more times. If it tested positive for cocaine but negative on a purity check that probably means you've denatured it to ecgonine or some other partially broken molecule. The same test that tests for cocaine gives a positive test for benzoylecgonine, ecgonine methyl ester, meta-hydroxybenzoylecgonine, para-hydroxybenzoylecgonine, and norbenzoylecgonine.

tropaneWould these show up on a bleach (sodium hypochlorite) test?

 

[Frit Buchner]

Different people think different things are a positive or negative result to a bleach test. Sodium hypochlorite is a strong base so;

Any lewis acid bronstead acid or anything that has a pH lower than 7 will fizzle and shoot across the surface powder cocaine is a lewis acid, with it's added HCl, but so are a lot lot lot of things

Bleach will neutralize sn acid so cocaine should definitely form a drop or 2 of oil on the surface initially, but it will probably turn into a waxy crumb in seconds. You would have to look up everything you considered something might be and see if it is a solid at room temperature. You'd have to consider if neutralization to pH 11-13 would cause a reaction.

If I took a crumb of citric acid ascorbic acid tartaric acid or any acid it would fizzle and zoom around.

Things that are basic wouldn't react.base cocaine, baby formula, powdered milk, baking soda... they would sink.

Chances are you wouldn't be able to determine if it was one of those things without Ms/gc or at least a very very specific test. The reason why cocaine has stuff like benzylecgonine or ecgonine methyl ester is because it's a molecule or two away from cocaine and it has a similar boiling point freezing point, mol. Weight, pH ECT and it can't be separated from the cocaine because of that