Help with old trimmings in vodka

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

So a two years ago I had a decent outdoor crop. All the trimmings were put in a 5gal bucket , covered in vodka and left in my shed for atleast a year or two. Strained the mash, rinsed with some water once or twice and consolidated. Ended up with around 2 or 3 gallons dark brown/black liquid. I took a liter and cooked it down leaving a thick resin at room temp. I ended up with a few syringes. Upon eating QUITE A BIT to the point I had oil floating in the toilet bowl the next morning after my coffee business ;]. I found this substance to be not noticably psychoactive. I originally intended to make RSO, I realize that this isn't the proper method. At the time I thought it was better to let the vodka take its time with the plant material. So here are my questions:

1. Are either the gallons of liquid or the syringes worth anything at this point. Am I able to salvage/isolate psychoactives? How?
2. I just found out about converting CBDs into delta9 (I thought I knew everything about weed) - is there any potential for this?
3. Any tips, suggestions, ideas, comments, etc.? Thanks guys and gals.

 

[Idontcarethatmuch]

No i would throw it in the trash. It probably oxidest. You stored it way to long. I don't know what you saw in your shit but it wasn't the cannabis oil it would have been metabolized.

And now if you don't want to destroy your crop next time. Cool down IPA/Ethanol as cold as you can (-18°C would be good) put your stuff inside shake it put it in the freezer. Shake it again after ONE HOUR!!!! and strain it after. Cook of the alcohol and get quite a yellowish oil.

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

Oh I forgot I had this.
Thank you for the reply, but I still haven't completely answered my questions.
For what I was expecting, I went about it in a terrible way, yes. If ANYTHING I might have extracted some medicinal value from any residual cannabinoids but as far as getting high, for my tolerance especially? Not a chance.

When I made this post I knew that butane extractions with a special contraption was most effective and efficient for making high quality stuff. And of course, about making RSO. That was what I was hoping to do. After the fact I realized that I extracted a bunch of plant oils fats turpenes and various residual cannabinoids... so I wanted to say my interest was geared towards being able to isolate the content of this resin, and try to obtain something usable through manipulation. To get the THC and CBD extracted and cleaned on their own, if possible.

Say it wasn't this material but an ideal material, how would one do this without a fractional/steam distillation? If possible? Is there a way to do it with solvents and or manipulations?

And yeah, haha.... I ate more or less 20g of that resin and there was oil floating on the water after I used the bathroom the next morning. I ingested a good share of it, to no effect psycho-actively. I can't tell you much about the CBD effects, if any.

 

[Idontcarethatmuch]

Well I told you how to do it without butan or chlorophyl and I told you there ain't no cannabinoids left. Even if you never smoked a joint you ain't getting high of a kilo of this 2 year old stuff! And if you aint ill there should not be any lipids in the toilet after eating even if you ate 50g. so idk what to tell you there where no oil in the toilet or go to the doctor cause you are seriously ill if your intestian cant handle 20g of lipids!!!

But if you for some reason don't listen and have extracted RSO and are not willing to buy a short path distillation apparatus (or build it) and want to clean most lipids and chlorophyl then:
1. Winterize it
2.filter with activated charcoal
3 liquid/liquid extraction hexan/ethanol-water

1. Put the oil in hexan and freeze it from -20 to -40°C. Lipids gonna harden and can be filtered of.
2. Mix the remaining liquid with activated charcoal. Mix or shake it for several times. Be aware of hexan fumes. After that filter of the charcoal.
3. Mix in the same amount of IPA/Ethanol. Shake it and after that pour in water. The water and the IPA will mix and bc hexan and water wont mix it will float up. Water ethanol chlorophyl in one phase, cannabinoids and hexan in the other. Suck the right phase out. Evaporate the solvent in glas (warm hexan and silicone nono) and you have the oil. Be aware of flamable vapors!!!!


But again it is more expensive to do RSO and clean it after so it makes no sense when you can alcohol extract without the green devil as i told you in my first post.

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

Again, thank you for the response, I will be sure to consider the fact that I've been seriously ill for atleast two years or more.
Yes, a cold IPA/Ethanol wash. I understand.

As I said, I was a bit ignorant and inexperienced with the actual chemistry of marijuana. I was going by how everyone always told me "How to do it" - also the many misinformations on the interwebs. I am familiar with some growing and extractions, yes. As far as distillations, isolating extractions and washing them .. not so much. I have some glass ware and am working my way onto distillations but I was interested in any low tek ways to extract/isolate/wash the THC and CBD. That way we can get all the worth out of the plant material by isomerizing the CBD into THC, after we extract the initial THC.

So ... - (I KNOW, BARE WITH ME- but it isn't just for me, I am saying/asking for all of us who are interested and uncertain)
Forgot about this old shit I have. I have a brand new batch I just trimmed of some BOMB SHIT, OK?
... I guess the first step would be to do the butane wash to get all the THC, this will make the high quality 'shatter' resin. You make the little cookie with the wax paper. That or the quick cold alcohol wash.

Then to get the CBDs out, it is still in the plant material. Cannabidiol is soluble in ethanol and DMSO. I suspect also alot more things but I am unable to find the info and don't feel like looking any more at the moment. So, as you suggest, hexane. Is this with or without the alcohol soaking after the initial wash for the THC? So without distillation, we will use a combination of freezing or 'winterizing' with alcohol or hexane solvents and using charcoal filtrations and water washes to isolate our CBD.

Thank you.

 

[Idontcarethatmuch]

No the CBD is inside the resin its more complicated to get it out of the resin then distilling it. You either could try to vacuum distill it and fractioning it (but you will never completly seperate everything of) or you'ld need to do chromotography (which is the industry standart but isn't easy either).

If you want to do isomerization just order cristalline CBD.