MDMA Precursors Completely Legal In US?

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I'm looking for alternatives to the pmk glycidate esters and salts, and in the US they are now watched in some form, from strictly illegal to on the special surveillance list. They are known, and for my security needs that is an isue.

So, they recently put thosechemical on the special surveillance list;

methyl 2-(1,3-benzodioxol-5-yl)-3-oxobutanoate (MAMDPA; MDMAPA)

I am wondering if anyone has the ethyl version of this chemical.

There is also a non-controlled amphetamine precursor analogus to MAPA, but I believe MGPA, or methyl 3-oxo-4-phenylbutryate, is completely legal in the US, as well as ethyl 3-oxo-4-phenylbutryate.

I'm wondering if the methylenedioxy version of methyl 3-oxo-4-phenylbutryate, or the ethyl variety, is available.

Otherwise, if there are any new, US legal chemicals, I am open to them as well. If anyone could point me in the right direction, that would be great! Thank you!
 

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None of these are " completely legal" in the US under the analogs act. The most low key precursor to mdma by far is Sassafras albilum. It's widely available in the Eastern US 🇺🇸
 

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None of these are " completely legal" in the US under the analogs act. The most low key precursor to mdma by far is Sassafras albilum. It's widely available in the Eastern US 🇺🇸
Frit BuchnerThat is a very good point. I guess I am looking at things that fall under the analgoue act, as it seems that isn't used often to prosecute. Strongly Grey area, if that makes sense.

So that kind of flips my thinking on its head

Sassafras is found more than the east, the south and mid east area have it too. It's very convenient for personal scale chemistry. That and vanilla lol.
 

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Well, it's a federal law meaning you would have to be charged by the Dea, and it would be federal charges and federal prison if convincted. I wouldn't count on local LE NOT calling them though, I'm pretty sure they would
 

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take a look at synthesizing your own mdp2p. you can start from ethyl vanillin
 
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