Need help removing color from fetty (fentanal)!!

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I have been stuck with about an Oz and a half of blue fetty (fentanyl) . It is street quality chunks, not pure fentanyl. My question is how would I go about removing the color? I assume it is just food coloring and was considering using acetone like I've done in the past with meth. Would this work? How would I remove the cut? Thank you
 

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In my opinion you need quantitative analysis. The blue dye on your fetty should not be treated as the same impurity you saw on meth, since this isn’t meth and the bulk of the stuff is presumably less then unitary with unknown interaction with the acetone/solvent.
 

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If you have to ask those questions I doubt you are prepared for handling pure Fentanyl, but well, here we go:
A A/B acid-base extraction should remove the cuts and color and recrystallisation will yield pure product. It is now probably Fentanyl.HCl or Fentanyl.Citrate. dissolve in water, filter, all Fentanyl should be in the filtrate (the liquid), Render alkaline by carefully adding sodium carbonate solution until ph is >10. extract with non-polar solvent like toluene or xylene. wash the extract with water. Add citric acid (anhydrous) in alcohol (IPA is fine) until ph is 5-6. The F-Citrate should drop out. wash the stuff with more dry xylene or toluene and then with naphta (Shellsol it is in your corner) and let dry to a crisp powder. If its not a crisp powder dissolve in a minimum amount of HOT IPA and add dry Acetone and into the fridge. Wash resulting stuff with naphta and now it really should be dry powder.

Try not to kill yourself or others.
Fentanyl is a lousy drug with a bad safety profile be aware of this.
 

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If you have to ask those questions I doubt you are prepared for handling pure Fentanyl, but well, here we go:
A A/B acid-base extraction should remove the cuts and color and recrystallisation will yield pure product. It is now probably Fentanyl.HCl or Fentanyl.Citrate. dissolve in water, filter, all Fentanyl should be in the filtrate (the liquid), Render alkaline by carefully adding sodium carbonate solution until ph is >10. extract with non-polar solvent like toluene or xylene. wash the extract with water. Add citric acid (anhydrous) in alcohol (IPA is fine) until ph is 5-6. The F-Citrate should drop out. wash the stuff with more dry xylene or toluene and then with naphta (Shellsol it is in your corner) and let dry to a crisp powder. If its not a crisp powder dissolve in a minimum amount of HOT IPA and add dry Acetone and into the fridge. Wash resulting stuff with naphta and now it really should be dry powder.

Try not to kill yourself or others.
Fentanyl is a lousy drug with a bad safety profile be aware of this.
OrgUnikumI appreciate your help though there's no reason to be rude to me in the beginning. And for the record I don't use fentanyl, but in my area the heroin has disappeared and everyone wants to buy this shit. But the blue stuff was making everyone complain due to its taste. The extraction you are talking about is one I've done hundreds of times for red phos. meth. Thanks again
 
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I appreciate your help though there's no reason to be rude to me in the beginning. And for the record I don't use fentanyl, but in my area the heroin has disappeared and everyone wants to buy this shit. But the blue stuff was making everyone complain due to its taste. The extraction you are talking about is one I've done hundreds of times for red phos. meth. Thanks again
InnocentBystander23I wouldn’t consider the reply rude, it’s just that this fact is true for most of us and OrgUnikum was being protective towards you. Nonetheless he gave you the information you asked for, which I didn’t due to the fact that my attitude was also being somewhat protective. Work with this material should be carried out with all the PPE you can get, meth chemistry is pretty much entry level compared to this purification procedure. Remember that most glassware and PPE should be destroyed after use for safety measures, a tiny stain on the table or lab coat is potent enough to kill several people. I trust you have enough dangerous chemistry experience with meth to be able to handle the freebasing/salt formation. While P/I2 reduction is an explosion/fire hazard this is a toxicity one, as you may know that a big wet towel can be used to stop a runaway meth synthesis (I even bet it might have saved your freedom before), in the case of fent you need like a super small room that you will cover with thick plastic folil all over and hazmat+gas-mask+stirdy gloves and means of undressing the hazmat without touching it directly. And of course making a dilution (cutting) of the fent which must be mixed for extended time as not to have the eventuality of hotspots (someone I know died of fent hotspot). I was the person that instigated the destruction of the material and provided the method. I like fentanyl but I only accept pharma grade in the case where it isn’t available to me at will. This is how I never get addicted to opiates, or at least so far I only had the surprise of the addiction I was certain of proven to be illusory. Best wishes! P.S. please do research the approach and ask for the expert’s opinion, try to find someone with former hands-on experience as a guide.
 

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I wouldn’t consider the reply rude, it’s just that this fact is true for most of us and OrgUnikum was being protective towards you. Nonetheless he gave you the information you asked for, which I didn’t due to the fact that my attitude was also being somewhat protective. Work with this material should be carried out with all the PPE you can get, meth chemistry is pretty much entry level compared to this purification procedure. Remember that most glassware and PPE should be destroyed after use for safety measures, a tiny stain on the table or lab coat is potent enough to kill several people. I trust you have enough dangerous chemistry experience with meth to be able to handle the freebasing/salt formation. While P/I2 reduction is an explosion/fire hazard this is a toxicity one, as you may know that a big wet towel can be used to stop a runaway meth synthesis (I even bet it might have saved your freedom before), in the case of fent you need like a super small room that you will cover with thick plastic folil all over and hazmat+gas-mask+stirdy gloves and means of undressing the hazmat without touching it directly. And of course making a dilution (cutting) of the fent which must be mixed for extended time as not to have the eventuality of hotspots (someone I know died of fent hotspot). I was the person that instigated the destruction of the material and provided the method. I like fentanyl but I only accept pharma grade in the case where it isn’t available to me at will. This is how I never get addicted to opiates, or at least so far I only had the surprise of the addiction I was certain of proven to be illusory. Best wishes! P.S. please do research the approach and ask for the expert’s opinion, try to find someone with former hands-on experience as a guide.
HerrHaberPeople have gotten quite squeamish on da Intanetz, now well dear @InnocentBystander23, sorry thats as nice as I can do without impersonating anybodies universal nanny so it will not get any better, take it or leave it.

I miss the olde dayz of high quality flamewars and no, flaming has absolutely nothing to do with shouting insults or threats. It all went downhill, the Internet actually died the day AOL connected Missisippi (the date is just coincidence) and was replaced by a shopping platform in disguise.
Old people, always lamenting, I know, I know, lets talk about the war then.....🤣
 

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I wouldn’t consider the reply rude, it’s just that this fact is true for most of us and OrgUnikum was being protective towards you. Nonetheless he gave you the information you asked for, which I didn’t due to the fact that my attitude was also being somewhat protective. Work with this material should be carried out with all the PPE you can get, meth chemistry is pretty much entry level compared to this purification procedure. Remember that most glassware and PPE should be destroyed after use for safety measures, a tiny stain on the table or lab coat is potent enough to kill several people. I trust you have enough dangerous chemistry experience with meth to be able to handle the freebasing/salt formation. While P/I2 reduction is an explosion/fire hazard this is a toxicity one, as you may know that a big wet towel can be used to stop a runaway meth synthesis (I even bet it might have saved your freedom before), in the case of fent you need like a super small room that you will cover with thick plastic folil all over and hazmat+gas-mask+stirdy gloves and means of undressing the hazmat without touching it directly. And of course making a dilution (cutting) of the fent which must be mixed for extended time as not to have the eventuality of hotspots (someone I know died of fent hotspot). I was the person that instigated the destruction of the material and provided the method. I like fentanyl but I only accept pharma grade in the case where it isn’t available to me at will. This is how I never get addicted to opiates, or at least so far I only had the surprise of the addiction I was certain of proven to be illusory. Best wishes! P.S. please do research the approach and ask for the expert’s opinion, try to find someone with former hands-on experience as a guide.
HerrHaberI appreciate your insight. i can't afford to destroy my glassware at the moment so I'm just going to leave it as is and not mess with it. thanks
 
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