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Cheers from Central Europe,
recent events around Arena group in Romania left me out to dry along with many others all across Europe. Me being just an average end user sickened by impurities and absolute lack of any honor of street buys, have long ago decided to 'make my own' - I was more than happy to be on the far end of the chain buying a bottle of Arena (1500x50mg) now and then. Crawling on all four around the house hoping for some forgotten crumbs, I'm humbly searching for a no-hassle no-bulshit way to procure a few dozen grams of ephedrine, idealy monthly or bi-monthly or so.
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I am now using sodium (Na) salt [cas 5449-12-7] to produce P2P. In the synthesis process, I used phosphoric acid instead of hydrochloric acid. The problem I have now is: there seems to be a problem with the purity of the P2P crystal. I ignite the crystal and find that its residue is a white powder. Under normal circumstances, its residue should be transparent and viscous. The reason why I use phosphoric acid is because if I don't use phosphoric acid in the process, later when I use P2P to synthesize Methamphetamine,I need to use red phosphorus, which is relatively difficult to obtain. What I'm wondering now is how is the phosphoric acid used during the operation? Such as temperature, concentration and so on. Thank you very much for your enlightenment
 
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I am now using sodium (Na) salt [cas 5449-12-7] to produce P2P. In the synthesis process, I used phosphoric acid instead of hydrochloric acid. The problem I have now is: there seems to be a problem with the purity of the P2P crystal. I ignite the crystal and find that its residue is a white powder. Under normal circumstances, its residue should be transparent and viscous. The reason why I use phosphoric acid is because if I don't use phosphoric acid in the process, later when I use P2P to synthesize Methamphetamine,I need to use red phosphorus, which is relatively difficult to obtain. What I'm wondering now is how is the phosphoric acid used during the operation? Such as temperature, concentration and so on. Thank you very much for your enlightenment
microsharpP2P is liquid at normal condition.
 
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P2P is liquid at normal condition.
G.Pattonsorry,mistake, we use sodium (Na) salt [cas 5449-12-7] to produce P2P ,then use P2P to make Ephedrine. it crystallizates. and we burned it to test. and found out that the residue is white powder. and Under normal circumstances, its residue should be transparent and viscous. so we suspect if it is the phosphoric acid reason, if yes, how we use it . Thank you very much for your enlightenment
 

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sorry,mistake, we use sodium (Na) salt [cas 5449-12-7] to produce P2P ,then use P2P to make Ephedrine. it crystallizates. and we burned it to test. and found out that the residue is white powder. and Under normal circumstances, its residue should be transparent and viscous. so we suspect if it is the phosphoric acid reason, if yes, how we use it . Thank you very much for your enlightenment
microsharpYou have to check its melting point and compare with literature data. Your method isn't reliable.
 

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You have to check its melting point and compare with literature data. Your method isn't reliable.
G.Pattonhere is latest result: we use sodium (Na) salt [cas 5449-12-7] to produce P2P, sodium (Na) salt [cas 5449-12-7] and Hcl to react. now the result as show in the following video. what do we need to do next step ? add NaoH? can you give detailed instruction ?
 

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here is latest result: we use sodium (Na) salt [cas 5449-12-7] to produce P2P, sodium (Na) salt [cas 5449-12-7] and Hcl to react. now the result as show in the following video. what do we need to do next step ? add NaoH? can you give detailed instruction ?
microsharpYou have to separate layers, I guess. Is there mixture after hydrolysis or what?
 
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