Meow Meow "Voss" Synthesis (4-MMC)

[animeboro]

Hello sir how much finish product you get this way?
How looks like finish product ?
Why u dont use freezer to get finish product ??
Why you wash freebase only one time no 3time water and water and baking soda ?
Why acid hbr ??

 

[William D.]

We will write the quantity after, in large crystals. But based on the used amount of acid there about 100 g of product in the form of salt. Expect a photo of a recrystallized product, this part will be supplemented in the same simple format as synthesis. For crystallization, a refrigerator (~+4*C) is used, you will soon see why and I will give explanations. Washing with water is desirable, we used it but did not write here. Soda was not used for some reason to avoid hydrolysis of ethyl acetate. It will be more difficult to separate. HBr was available, this was already used in the first stage, so we decided to use HBr in the last stage. In addition, crystals are better, and as you see in the last photo, crystallizes even in water almost instantly.

 

[Rua]

How many grams of product did you get?

 

[dodobird]

Someone please tell me if 4mp is replaced with Propiophenone then the same procedure can be implemented,,?
If so what would the measurements be,?

Waiting for a reply, thanks in advance

 

[dodobird]

To get mmc instead of 4mmc

 

[PlayTag]

If i have 2b4m can just add methylamine 40 then use 37% hcl to get the product?

 

[Rua]

Can I do this with 2b4m?

 

[Dr. MMX]

Yes,
the 2b4m and 400 ml of ethyl acetate is mixed in the bottle.
Methylamine is added to the vessel (be careful when doing it, if you do not have a lot of space in vessel and you transfer chaoticly the liquid it can really explode very soon becasue of pressure released during reaction. It should be transfered slowly on the glass wall. For the 1st 5 minutes open a liittle lid every 10-15s.

for the 100g 2b4m the hbr 48% is estimated 35g


The powder obtained after its filtered and dried can be instantly crystalised in hot solvent (water, gradually decrashing temp of oversaturated solution). Simply crystals are taken out at 40c then its reapeated. (in the case we do have a little discolors).

If you do start like in the guide there will be too much impurities to crystalise it right away.

 

[Rua]

@Dr.MMX can i apply this in nep synthesis by changing 2b4m

 

[Rua]

Thank you so much

 

[Amorking]

Thank you very good information what do you recommend me to use for 3mmc

 

[Rua]

Thank you very good information what do you recommend me to use for 3mmc

 

[Dr. MMX]

The reaction has confirmed TLC that no more ketone was left aftger several minutes (mostly) depending on the its conditions and mostly stirring and temp. For the alterantive the similar technique is to be performed.

Its not a crime. If there is tribal which bans from their locations blonde man 2m and above will i be guilty ijf I do say im 2m?

the poetry forums are very popular in our actual era, anybody can write anything. Scripts do, algorythms do, even my dog can, however he is on the level of several marks

 

[Dr. MMX]

As well, the idea is vey wild, reaction in alcohol in basis leads to impurities later on, so its asap to be released from the reaction as long the ketone is no more left. 2h suggestion is wild idea... basedon what?\ waht conditions were there to not get any of the ketone left after 2h? its important matter.I am intgerested to hear such new thing

 

[Dr. MMX]

Its not the data of any revelance

 

[Dr. MMX]

its obvious what will hapopen in this reaction when alcohol is extndend for no reason, if tehre is no ketone after several minutes what is the point of reaction? when its the point?

 

[Dr. MMX]

you do obtain other substances, rather than desired one. Here we speak about the 4mmc, no other ones. Maybe some "factory " in local markets obtained the wayu to obtain anything as powder or crystal form but I do ensure you if there is no ketone left there is no point for futher reaction and this what ou linked is missinformation. Confrimed infromation could be for example some more advanved techniques, howeverthere is no such miss precise of tlc if reaction doesnt contain ketone within 50 minutes there is no way in the earth that there will be some at 2;30 dont misslead pple

 

[Dr. MMX]

"higher" is different definition. In the industrial chjemitrythere are a lot of aspect to be concernerd, i doubt anyone would choice tha path
as well of harmng pple? I can do anythingf with my dog and what he is writing i mean even if becasue you are bad guy who suggest to commit crime? i dont undrstand such behavior in the field. We can freerly speak about the reactions, chemistry is the field to be developed

 

[Rua]

I want to ask you a question
mephedrone combination c11 h15 N0
If I increase these for example
What will be the result if I do it like this?
c17 h15 N04

 

[Rua]

For example, if I synthesize the product in this way, what will be the power of the product?

 

[Rua]

I want to ask you a question
mephedrone combination c11 h15 N0
If I increase these for example
What will be the result if I do it like this?
c17 h15 N04

 

[Rua]

@By William D. Can I do this by mixing it outside with the lid open?

 

[Rua]

@By William D. Can I do this by mixing it outside with the lid open?