MDMB-4en-PINACA(5-CL-ADB-A)

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Reagents:
indazole-3-carboxylate, sulfuric acid conc., methanol (ethanol or another alcohols, but methanol is best) or buy methyl (ethyl) 1H-indazole-3-carboxylate
5-bromo-1-pentene, active metal alkooxide (NaOMet, t-BuOK. etc), THF, DMF
Amidation: EDC HCl, HOBt, DIPEA and L-tert-leucinamide.
L-tert-leucinamide has some difficulties in synthesis, and hardly available, but it is better to acquire it from the factory.
L-valinamide will be more available, but cannabinoid with him has less potency.
 

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A I bought cas 43120-28-1 from China how to make 5cladba please teach me how to mix l-tert-leucinamide hydrochloride and 5bromo 1pentene
 

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u can get experience of synthesis on simple ones like JWH-018. For this TOP (5-CL-ADB-A) cannabinoid we need know u region, for searching suppliers chemical reagents, and we will help you to carry out the synthesis step by step
 

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The synthetic route of jwh is a hydrogenation reaction, the reaction produces hydrogen gas, which is dangerous for some people who heat with an open flame, and condensation reflux is required to make it. The synthesis of this product is commonly synthesized in two ways to synthesize the product, one requires sodium hydride, and the other tetrahydrofuran, and potassium tert-butoxide. However, the synthesis of 5cl is relatively simple.
 

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ACan we talk personally? I don't understand how to make it. I once tried making cas 43120-28-1 by mixing it with 5bromo 1pentene, dmf and potassium carbonate. The result is that there is no effect at all, it's very bad
 

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HI,what equipment would i need and what steps differ from the adb-pinaca synth?Thanks.
 

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rotary distiller is used in 5cladba ,but heard can be done just like adbb. Adbb and 5cladba cook 5 hrs netween 70-80 degreees
 

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It is better to analyze the synthesis here in more detail. To avoid work with sulfuric acid, it is better to find intermediate 1-methyl-1H-indazole-carboxylate (cas 43120-28-1). Then the first reaction, with which we will deal - it is an alkylation of an indazol derivative. Alkylation occurs in the polar aprotic solvent (THF, DMF) in the presence of a strong base (sodium hydride. sodium or potassium methylat, ethylate or butylate, etc). This reaction is very sensitive to water (fire hazard!). The main rule is ideally dry equipment and perfectly dry solvents. Equipment we can dry with a directional heat (construction dryer), solvents drain watering agents (calcium chloride, magnesium sulfate, etc). The room should not be with high humidity, it may be critical for self-ignition reaction. Any glass used, scoop, a spoon must be perfectly dry, not a single drop of water. The reaction itself should pass with strong cooling (Ice-Water bath) with the same purpose - to keep the reaction from burning. If it lights up, then it looks like a volcanic eruption. It is necessary to have a fire extinguisher near and the fire fabric to overlap the oxygen access to the flame. When we created ideal conditions (dried equipment, solvents, room) We are ready to start the reaction. I love to use DMF and sodium hydride in mineral oil. First, we prepare an 1-methyl-1H-indazole-carboxylate solution in DMF, after that, cool in ice-water bath. The volume of the flask depends on the scaling of the reaction. The shape of the flask we can use as a round bottom (if we have a tripod for holding the flasks), flat-bottomed or erlenmeyer, if she suddenly turned out to be at hand. In the round bottom flask, cooling is much more efficient for the entire volume. Without a tripod, we can cool and mix the mixture manually. After we cool the flask, we begin with small portions to sprinkle sodium hydride to the solution, thoroughly stirring after each addition, not removing from cooling. At 10 g 1-methyl-1H-indazole-carboxylate we need 2,4 g commercially available sodum hydride 60% in mineral oil. After adding the entire sodium hydride, we remove the ice-water bath and stirring at room temperature for an hour or more. We can mix both manually and with a magnetic stirrer. After this time, we cool the flask in the freshly prepared ice-water bath. Now we require 5-bromo-1-pentene, cas 1119-51-3 (12 g for 10 g indazole derivative). It must be added dropwise with constant stirring and cooling. To accomplish this, we can use a syringe (making all manually) or we can use a drip funnel, fixed on a tripod over the flask. After all the addition, remove the cooling and mix the night (on a magnetic stirrer or manually flask if there are no sitrrer). After time, we pour cold water into the flask. The amount of water is at least double the amount of DMF, better than 3-4 equivalents or more. The initial amount of DMF proceeds from what amount an indazole derivative can be dissolved. Optimally, it is 3 equivalent conditionally (30 ml at 10 g is minimal). Next, after mixing the reaction mixture with water, we are extracted with ethyl acetate. The number of ethyl acetate is at least 30% of the total volume of the mixture. As a result, the minimum amount of flasks for 10 g: 10 g indazole+30 ml DFM+10 ml pentene, 60 ml water, 30ml EtOAc = 150 ml volume of the flask is minimal for 10 g indazole derivative. Ethyl acetate can be washed with water, saturated with salt, dry magnesium sulfate from water residues, and evaporate the solvent, to obtain a derivative one as an oil. Regarding distillation and its variants will be created a separate topic. If you need any refinement for equipment for this stage, then I am waiting for questions.
 
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Dear expert,
What is the next step of the synthesis after we got the oil as you described.
Is this the final product and can we start with crystallization or should we do amidation as in the last stage of ADB-PINACA cooking ?
 

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How many grams of 1H Indazole 3 carboxylic acid do you need for a production of 100 g and a production of 1 kg of product ?​


what are the costs of materials and production for 1 kg
 
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@sirmtr hi my friend did this 1200g methyl 1h work OK as the main precursor for 5cla or was any other ingredients needed to make uo the precursor?
 

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1200g indazole approximately. Prices based on your location and suppliers.
 

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Hello William dampier hope your well my friend.. regarding the 1kg precursor in teh full set pack from china... you say that 1200g methyl 1h is this the only ingredient needed for the main precursor for 5cladba? I have 5kg of this on hand. With dmf, 5bromo, Potassium carbonate or I may try tert butoxide as a tester cook.. with all the steps fully followed from my previous cooks with temps, times, and cool and rinse period will this yield good 👍🏽 I have brought many full set from china and got very unreliable.. thankyou for your time today
 

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So i have this:
dmf, 2.5-3 liters (68-12-2)
Potassium carbonate, 850g (584-08-7)
5-Bromo-1-pentene , 500 g(1119-51-3)

Is it right that main material 43120-28-1?
 

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5 bromo 1 pentene , could reach 580g is better , after cooling , you will get 1.5kgs finished , then all good , DMF could do 3L is better
 

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Hey, can you pm me as i have the 5fadb precursor from china ordered from tgrc . i need a video on the instructions given for 5fadb as i completely messed up the 5cladb prec
 

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It's not really 5f-adb, but adb-b unless I am completely out of date, but they have always erroneously advertised like so, AFAIK.
I'm afraid there's no video about this reaction, but it is straightforward enough to be successful.
There are some tips that I'll leave, but review from the experts is recommended before proceeding.
Apparently keeping the temperature between 70⁰C and 80⁰C is mandatory. Less than 70⁰C and you won't have a complete reaction. Above 80⁰C and it may become sticky and your workup will be a nightmare.
After reaction is finished, let it cool by itself before flooding. If you were to force cool it under water bath, do it under agitation or your product will carry unwanted impurities, and you can either be content with less than pure final product or will have to further clean it. Swim was told (haha) that the amount of water used for washes can be generously increased if your filtration is well done, so to minimize loss of valuable finely divided particles that will be suspended during these steps and end up affecting your yield.
Another worry swim had was that this is supposed to be noticeably exothermic and one should be ready to cool it, but swim never noticed this temperature release, and never needed to force cool it.
Drying should not exceed 40⁰C, and gloves should be worn at all times.

Good luck and happy cooking!
 
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