Meth by Shake and bake What do you think of the method and the ingredients? It's my first time.

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

That is ALOT of lithium, much more than is necessary, probably a dangerous excess even. 2/3 grams should be enough. I use 2 AA batteries and that is much more than is needed for 5-6g of PSE. 2/3 AA batteries will be more than enough for 12g of PSE.

Ether from starting fluid is good. Paint thinner works great. Naptha, colemans fuel, or any combination of ... virtually any non polar hydrocarbon petroleum distillate will work as solvent. 200-300ml should be good.

190ml or grams? of ammonium nitrate is alot of material also. You shouldn't need more than 40 grams.
Sodium hydroxide you are going to want more of. I would suggest about 2x the amount of AN. So if 40g of AN, use 80g of NaOH.

Lastly add about 5-10ml distilled water. Insert a hose into the bottom of your bottle and put the water in so that it goes past the lithium without reacting. This will kick off the reaction. Get the cap on asap. Burp it after the first minute to get rid of any CO2 inside the bottle. With these ingredients in this quantity in a 2 liter bottle, you shouldn't need to burp much after this initial burp. The reaction shouldn't take longer than an hour. The lithium will turn copper color and dissolve - this is what you are looking for. When the reaction is mostly complete and the Li has been dissolved, burp it to a safe level of pressure and you can shake the shit out of it to expose all the PSE to the lithium and make sure everything is homogenized and reacted thoroughly. Then you may proceed to filtering, base, extract, salt, wash, crystallize etc.

 

[happyn]

I have problem with the taste and smell of the product its like solvent and can't be inhale. Can you help me with that

 

[SauceySockss]

where are you getting your ammonium nitrate from? I have been using the shit from the instant cold packs at walgreens that has "Calcium Ammonium Nitrate" and followed the rest of your ingredients. When the lithium bronzes, I am able to filter it and gas it at the end. I also get quite a lot of powder from gassing, but its not meth. I dont know what it is but its not dope. I will gas it a second time and get a teeny tiny amount of powder and that will get me like 2-3 hits of "dope" but its absolutely horrible.


I found a different cold pack from CVS that contains "UREA BLEND" would that be better to use instead of the CAN i was getting from the other cold packs? I have no idea where to get AN or how to make it.

 

[A1N4O8N8]

I am running into this problem as well, so annoying

 

[A1N4O8N8]

Problem solved. 20-0-0 20.5-0-0 and 21-0-0 fertilizer from the big box stores you can get pure ammonium sulphate, works just the same only the quantity is different. @Osmosis Vanderwaal has corrected at least one post about the quantities. I cant remember off the top of my head.

 

[dean4545]

One thing I see that is a problem, you do not need to add any water to kick off the reaction. a bowl of hot water to put you bottle in is much safer. But if you really feel the need to add water add it before you add your lithium. and also wait to add your pill powder till all your lithium is bronzed . They put stuff in pills to inhibit the production of ammonia gas. But if u all ready have your lithium bronze made it won't matter. Plus if something is gonna go bad it's usually in the 1st hr of the reaction and then you won't be out your pills . Best thing I can tell you is to learn how to cook in a fire extinguisher, a steel one very important that it's steel and not aluminum

 

[hirozaru]

what is annoying with the fire extingisher, it is its price, although i can probably be reused more easily, and we can't see through. maybe once I know exactly what I am doing... but I'd like something I can look inside...

adding the pills after complicate things because ammonium gas is leaking, potentially all of it. maybe that's okay ?
or I need to produce more ammonium gas ? the pills I have seems to not contain any weird polymers. its 72.27% licorice, PSE is 10.84%

there is cafeine 7.23% and Dipotassium glycyrrizinate at 2.41% , 6.85% left unknown, unlisted.

hot bath is interesting... someone suggested me to use a hair drier to kick the reaction
and someone else tells me I should do it in the cold ?!? ...

 

[A1N4O8N8]

Okay for those PSE types you really should do a PSE extraction, basically its somewhat close to meth crystallization in anhydrous isopropyl or anhydrous denatured alc (ethanol) except there is a bit longer cookin in the alc with stirring then forcing through a filter. I will link the thread I plan to use. You need to get that shit out of your pse pills though, the only pills you could use straight up are the ones with no other ingredients but PSE shit even those will be better if extracted to pure pse which im about ot do here to mine in about an hour.

I plan on doing mine in 2 stages. Not a one and done, first ill build reaction and pressure for the lithum amine extraction, then I will vent it take cap off dump pse in, cap it and get the reaction going again with a little more ammonium sulphate and lye if neededbut only like 25% the origional amount.

You can use a hot bath and cold bath. Cold will slow/stop the reaction, allows you yo hold pressure for a long stretch if timed right, maybe a more advanced method, the hot bath gets it rolling again. Just info from my research so far ill make a thread tonight when I attempt it.

 

[hirozaru]

I do have a red layer at the bottom of my fuel, is that a good thing? i need to continue with the extraction to a base?

I have heard of the HCl+Al myth, in the very first directives I have received. Theory seems to agree it cannot work. It did not do much for me. Best gassing I have had is when I mixed all four.

Now I prefer to simply pour HCl acid in the mix. mix well, watch the pH, eventually, all the HCl will evaportate, the meth base becomes a salt and move to the water later, easy to separate the layers, then evaporate the water and purify.

Anyone knows if aliphatic hydrocarbons works as the liquid for the reaction ? I can get good quality kerosene for a fifth of the price compared to thinner or coleman fuel .

is the amount of liquid important ? in relation to the amount of solute?

can the one-pot reaction be done with 14 or 28g of PSE ?