Hypophosphorus Acid Synthesis???

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Hi wonderful people 👋
Can anyone help me with a solution on how to make hypophosphorus acid and/or anything else that one can use in the Ephedrine-Iodine-hypophosphorus acid synthesis? Without needing to have red phosphorus on hand. Also are there any other names this acid can go by that aren’t the desired one? Or are?? Eg: hypophosphoric acid, hypo acid etc. will these work or no?
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I will truly appreciate any advice.
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Hypophosphorous acid can be made a few ways, most of them starting with phosphorus. ones that don't start from elemental phosphorous include;

Hydrolysis of phosphorus trichloride to phosphorus acid then hydrogenation ot a strong base to hypophosphorus acid

Oxidation of phosphine gas with water or oxygen

Sodium hypophosphite with sulfuric acid

There are 2 species near hypophosphorous acid that can do the trick and several that cant. I haven't looked at that method in a long time, but rust inhibitor, made of sodium hypophosphite, can also be made into hypophosphorus acid
 

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General schemes for produce hypophosphorous acid
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Ca(OH)2 can be used instead Ba(OH)2
 
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I wish I knew how to apply that and understood/apply it to a action hahaha I hating seeming like I need to be spoon fed but if guys know of a actual paper where it has instructions that would help. But I can also google what you’ve said and work it out so it’s not crucial it’s just easier. Thanks
 

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That’s a good idea, I’ll definitely consider it if and when I actually start manufacturing. At this stage it’s just curiosity. Sorta like learning to dance before asking the girl at bar to hit the dance floor with me. But I can see how having a mentor on hand would be greatly helpful especially if doing big batches. The cost of losing product quickly outweighs that 250!
 

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Side note, does that mean the info on the forum isn’t as accurate as if we got info directly from a mentor?
 

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All information on this forum are official and checked in our labs or refers to authoritative scientific literature.
 

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He just means you can get the reactions off of the videos/forum posts, but then your going to have to scale it, find work-arounds for things you can't get or procedures your not equipped to do ect, but if you had a mentor, they'll hold your little hand instead of telling you to use the fucking search engine
 
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