Question J'essayais de me souvenir d'une cuisson à la mijoteuse. Je crois que j'ai bien compris, quelqu'un peut-il m'aider ?

[chewie12321]

Je suis ici pour m'assurer que j'ai les recettes détaillées et correctes. A l'époque, je travaillais dans la fabrication de certaines choses et celle que j'ai bien apprise était la méthamphétamine, j'ai appris l'anhidris, l'amoniaque, la dope rouge et noire et d'autres préparations à froid que j'allais essayer pour la simple raison que je n'avais pas à aller chez un dealer pour obtenir quoi que ce soit, juste pour m'occuper de mes habitudes et c'est tout, mais je suis bloqué sur les détails.

1 once de NitroMéthane GaI
2 houblon numéro 9 gun blueing 7 onces
3 baguettes de soudure à pointe orange pour nichole
4 ? je crois qu'il y a du charbon activé mais je n'en suis pas sûr
5 Fermer le couvercle avec du ruban adhésif et cuire à haute température pendant 12 heures, puis laisser refroidir pendant 12 heures.

une fois la cuisson terminée, il y a deux couches : la couche supérieure, qui contient toute la méthamphétamine, doit être coupée à partir du bas ; jetez la couche inférieure et assurez-vous de ne pas en mettre dans votre cristal ; l'ayer peut être toxique.

 

[Osmosis Vanderwaal]

Nah, man that sounds like recipe for string dope to me, I think wasp dope has more bang for your buck though🫣, I m surprised it was not discovered sooner. Vous êtes là, vous avez détruit un nid de guêpes et elles sont furieuses ! Vous avez tout ce qu'il faut, bugbzapper, wasp spray, un peu de cross-fire.....
Juste pour être sûr, non, ça ne fait rien. Un trou dans votre portefeuille peut-être
En fait, ça fait beaucoup de nitrates, ça pourrait être une réaction extrêmement énergique.
Nan, qui l'aurait cru, le bleuissement des armes à feu, c'est du salpêtre. Le salpêtre de merde est très utile.

 

[mycelium]

Yess sir it is, a little salt peter, a little charcoal, and some sulfur from the grow store, gnome same?

 

[Osmosis Vanderwaal]

Voici quelques-uns des ingrédients contenus dans le nettoyant pour canons n° 9 de Hoppe's :
Isobutane : 1000 ppm
Kérosène : 800 ppm
Éthanol : 100 mg/m³
Acide oléique : 1000 ppm
Citronellal : 100 ppm
Hydroxyde d'ammonium : Moins de 1%
(R)-p-mentha-1,8-diène : Moins de 1%
1,8 cinéole : Moins de 1%

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

C'est tout à fait une recette de drogue à base de ficelle de prison. C'est assez drôle quand tous les "bons vieux garçons" du sud viennent faire de la prison dans le nord-est, ils racontent tous qu'ils sont des gangs de motards et qu'ils sont des caïds de la méthamphétamine. Je me souviens, au début de ma vingtaine, avoir été régalé par un compagnon de cellule de Floride qui "fabriquait et vendait des kilos de méthamphétamine" selon la fameuse technique du "string dope". Je l'ai probablement encore écrit quelque part, avec les détails et les proportions exactes. C'est la première fois que je l'ai entendue... Au fil des ans, j'ai entendu différentes variantes de la part de plusieurs personnes, mais l'idée générale était la même. Sachant ce que je sais maintenant, c'est assez drôle quand les gens essaient de m'en parler comme s'ils savaient quelque chose que personne d'autre ne sait - comme s'ils avaient cet as dans le trou qu'ils peuvent sortir et faire fortune avec chaque fois qu'ils ont besoin d'une remontée. Il faut juste attendre un mois pour que l'aquarium que j'ai enterré, rempli de charbon de filtration et de peinture au fusil, réagisse et fasse pousser de la glace sur toutes les cordes. Ou était-ce 12 heures ? Après avoir "cuit à feu vif" pendant 12 heures... hmmm... quelque.... que ce soit, il commencera à pousser un de ces jours...
Quoi qu'il en soit, je chanterai "we're in the money..." en un rien de temps...

 

[InnocentBystander23]

C'est la même chose sur la côte ouest !

 

[tetr000]

Haha, j'adore ça. C'est la première fois que j'entends parler de ce sujet en particulier, mais je peux le comprendre.

 

[Osmosis Vanderwaal]

Just to be sure guys, Nitromethan gal ain't coming to this party, even if Nicole gets orange tips. Who activated the charchole and what does that 3ven mean? This stuff is a beast after it seperates, you have to CUT the layers apart.

 

[mycelium]

Lmao, I was wanting to meet nitromethane gal
that pussy would be the bomb!

 

[mycelium]

I heard about that shit in prison down south, and I said "you know that's not how drugs are made, right?

 

[Osmosis Vanderwaal]

I saw a report form as police office where they were trying to track down the origin of these legends and they were selling pseudoephedrine to junkies and telling them it was meth and asking them if it was anygood, and they mostltly said things like "it's got a little kick, this string dope aint ass strong as meth, but itll get you high, there's something to it, it's got legs" and shit like that. These mother fuckers don't have a tooth in thier head, 25 years old, dropped out f H.ZS. sophmore year, working on a hog farm.....our government gave the Chinese some ungodly amount of money to improve their education section. What the fuck is wrong with these people? There's 1000's of Americans who can barely read and write, and were funding Chinese education?! When I was 19 or 20 and went into prison, I was the only person at intake who got every question right on the entrance test, out of 320 people (you had to "do a workbook" for every question you got wrong, that is the prison educationn plan. get a GED if you can).. I think there was only 1-2 other people who graduated high school. That's the state of American education. well, that was the state 25 years ago and I don't think its improved.

 

[mycelium]

It hasn't.
If you've ever seen the movie 'idiocracy' where everyone thinks that dude is the smartest person in the world, that's like me in prison...everyone thought I was a genius because I could do 4x4 in my head....

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

There is actually something to it. I mean, there might have been at one time, anyway. Some things that may have been common sense or otherwise helpful might have been omitted and forgotten over time. Like the game telephone, this recipe has probably broken way down over the years of being passed on. It might not have been a recipe for meth HCl but maybe some kind of strange 'one-pot' tek for an OTC Henry reaction for P2P or P2NP or something. An incomplete or a part of a whole.
I think - if anything - at one point, the ingredients in some particular products might have made it possible to do a large scale batch and get a yield of something useful towards making meth along one of these routes. After spending so much time researching how to figure it out for myself, I believe that was how I noticed, all the particular ingredients and procedure conform to similar pattern.
Again it almost makes sense if you look back and think some products may have had this or that in it at one time, or if you add one or two things to it, *maybe* it *could* work?

Yea, I remember thinking this going through my grandpas workshop of old paint cans and other shit from the 70's and 80's and looking at all the ingredients in the products...

 

[Osmosis Vanderwaal]

That sounds about right, there are 1000's of drugs you have never even heard of, they were prescription drugs in the 40's and 50's or maybe they naver made it out of testing ect. There are a ton of simple drugs, the problem is finding them. If you take the...whatever, out of bertel nuts, a grignard reagent will turn it into 4-5 drugs, each a little different depending on what exact grignard you used. There are abundant plants that have chemicals that are phenylethylamines, but they aren't active, but they are 1 step from being active and are completely ignored. There are 15 species of plant that produce small amounts of cocaine and there is even a plant you have never heard of that produces as much cocaine as Erythoxylum coca or novagratense, hardly anyone knows a damn thing about it

 

[mycelium]

Will you tell us, or is it a secret?

 

[mewnmewamine]

No idea about any plant that produces as much as erythoxylum coca or novagratense other than other plants in the genus (eg; var. ipadu or truxillense)

Does seem possible maybe other though i have my doubts seeing as the enzymes MecgoR and CS are unique to the erythoxylum genus however if he can show it id love to know more.

The biosynthetic pathway of solanaceae and erythoxylum have been proven to of evolved separately
(Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America. 109 (26): 10304–9)
That would of been the genus that produces the closest compounds to cocaine with that ruled out i dont see many other possibilities enlighten us osmosis.


TLDR; Calling bullshit nut up or shut up osmosis.

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

We know there are dozens of other plants that have dozens of other active alkaloids, don't we guys? Of course, there are all sorts of distant relatives and cousins of the coca plant. I don't think they are plants we would be able to forage for in NA anyhow. NA Sass albidum isn't the only plant on earth that contains safrole. ...and so on. These aren't the easiest things to find references and things for either.

 

[mewnmewamine]

Yes but it is the only genus to contain the enzyme MecgoR responsible for reducing methyl ecognone to methyl ecognine and cocaine synthase for methyl ecognine ---> cocaine

If the plants dont contain the enzymes they cant make it the other plants that also produce safrole unsurprisingly also contain the same enzymes.

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

I see your point. Apparently it is a secret too. Uncle Osmo likes to do this. ;]

 

[whirlwind]

I knew about this when I was younger. It's a way to make meth that is more friendly to apartments or hotels and something about the pressure exerting on the reaction produced this like golden, syrupy yellow reaction mixture, much deeper in color than any not from a pressure cooker.
YOu go to La cer d' table or something like that, it's a high end kitchen store and they had these huge, tall pressure cookers that had 6-9 twist down clamps around the lid to keep it on. The procedure is less exciting though.
1. Get a 1 gallon fuel can from the gas station and pivot it so its on its side where you can see the bottom corner directly through the lid spout. Pour your I2 down there so that it settles on that specific side of the bottom of the can. Next, slowly do something of the opposite, pivoting it so that while the I2 stays on the other side you've also lifted the other side where you carefully pour all your hypo. With this, if your careful and brave you've managed to put both reactants in the gas can without allowing them to mix yet. Quickly screw down the gas lid, once its on shake that bitch a good few times and toss her like 20 feet away. It'll fume a little, puff up like a marshmellow and appear like it's gonna pop at any moment but after an hour you can easily remove the lid, theres no pressure, and pour out the HI acid into a mason jar.
2. Put the holder thing into the pressure cooker that allows you to put mason jars around it in a circle without letting them falll over. Divide your pse amongst your jars and your HI into those as welll. It doesn't react when put on the pse so its chill now.
3. Screw the mason jar lids on tight and put a good amount of water in the cooker. Screw down the lid and put it on the stove for like 20-26 hours.
It's allow the reactions in each jar and when they come out the rx looks crazy thick but following that its all the same.
Just a way to make it more family friendly or urban friendly I guess. I always liked the product better than others but its a little time consuming and industrial pressure cookers, while looking less suspicious than glassware, do stand out.

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

An interesting take on making HI for certain.