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Instead 37.32g ethylamine, can I use 3732g?
Instead 72.34g 1-phenyl-2-bromopentan-1-one, can i use 7.234 kg in a 20L flask?
Or scaling like that is dangerous and I will get an explosion or fire?
 

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Its definitely more dangerous. 1000x more dangerous, I surmise ( see what I did there?) A large vessel and mass like you are talking, is harder to cool and easier to run away, and if you spill 37g of 2-b-v, it's bad but I you spill 3700g, you won't be able to get within 50 yards of it and they'll have to call hazmat. At the end of the day, it's reaction dependant, but insufficient cooling and exceeding the vessel are the major problems , followed by gassing yourself so hard you can't get back to it, which causes problem 1 and 2. to go 1000x is insanely too big a ramp up and you should ramp up 10x, then 100x first AT LEAST
 
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Thanks to remember about using a mask since 2BV is carcinogen.
Necessary use ventilation with carbon filter, use a mask and be careful to not spill the glass flask.

I thought ethylamine was flammable, but because ethylamine is bought mixed with water no risk of fire in this synthesis. Am I correct, any possibility get an explosion or fire doing this?
 

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oh no its still EXTREMELY flammable, I just didnt mention that because the thought of someone using any sort of ligher/flame during this synthesis didnt cross my mind 🤷‍♂️
But you're right, shouldve mentioned it.
A few facts on Ethylamine I can think rn:
avoid fire - Carbon and Nitrogen oxides form during combustion
avoid Nickel, Copper and Zinc - as well as strong oxidising agents genereally
Signs of exposure would be eye irritation, shortness of breath, nausea, cough, burning on skin that came in contact with the irritant.
Inhalation should be avoided, harmful to the liver and kidneys if swallowed.
Strore it in tightly closed bottles in a cool place.
Oh and regarding fire again: I hope everyone knows this already anyways but: DONT SMOKE near it or in the lab generally.
Stay safe
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