25B-NBOME sintēze no benzaldehīdiem ar nitrometānu

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Kādēļ būtu nepieciešams sabojāt 2cb? Nbome bija mārketinga instruments IMO
 

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25B is a cool drug in its own right... at low doses. If you want an experience that's easy to manage out it public, it's a good one. Higher doses, it's not great, so for a "full on" experience, 2CB is the winner, there.
 

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Domāju, ka runāju tikai pats ar sevi, bet šķiet, ka vieglāk būtu nitrostirēnu reducēt līdz 2,5 MO-PEA ar Zn un HCl...
 

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Nē, Jūs nevarat izlaist nevienu soli, saņemot nepiesātinātu vielu vai zaudējot iznākumu. Etiķskābe ar cinku bezūdens apstākļos var darboties labāk. Ja vien jūs neņemat bezūdens HCl skābi.
 

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Paldies, jums būs jāmēģina hidrohlorīda vietā izmantot skābo skābi un jāskatās, kā tas darbojas...
 

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Jūs nemaz nerunājat ar sevi. Šis man ir ļoti interesants raksts, un es vācu savus krājumus, lai izmēģinātu. Man patīk ideja par tik spēcīgu psihedēliku! Es nekad nebūtu ar to rīkojies bezatbildīgi un mēģinājis to pasniegt kā skābi - tieši tas, manuprāt, šīs narkotikas sagrāva. Tas mainīja cilvēku skatījumu uz nbomām, kad cilvēki sāka mirt, jo prese gribēja tikai pikantu stāstu!
Es personīgi VĒLKAD lietoju tos atbildīgi un uzskatu, ka tie ir labi psihedēliķi! Arī 2cb lietošana pirmajā vietā būtu jauki, pieņemsim to godīgi. Iespējams, man nāksies nopirkt 1/2 kg 2,5-dmo benzaldehīda. (Burtiski tāpēc, ka es nevaru atrast nevienu, kam uzticos, lai pārdotu man mazāk par to!). Ar 2,5-dmo benzaldehīdu var pagatavot tik daudz dažādu lietu, tāpēc, lai gan līdz galaproduktam, pēc kura es tiecos, ir vairāk soļu nekā tad, ja es pirktu triptamīnu, fakts ir tāds, ka ar triptamīnu nevar pagatavot tik daudz lietu, kas mani interesētu tik daudz kā ar fenetilamīniem - tolerances apsvērumu dēļ es dodu priekšroku ļoti psihedēliskiem fenetilamīniem, nevis triptamīniem (kopumā - ir daži izņēmumi, tomēr ir daži).
Gotta love alibaba...
 

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Mēģiniet lasīt, varbūt tas jūs interesē?
SUPERPOTENTO SEROTONĪNA LIGANDU N-(HALOGENĒTO) BENZILANALOGU SINTĒZE
J. Chil. Chem. Soc., 59, Nº 3 (2014)

2003. gadā sākotnējie pētījumi ļāva secināt, ka N-2-
metoksibenzila aizvietošana ne tikai ar feniletilamīniem, bet arī ar
fenilizopropilamīni, triptamīni un 3-(2-aminoetil)-(1H,3H)
hinazolīn-2,4-dioni, kas saistīti ar tipisko 5-HT2 receptoru antagonistu
ketanserīnu, rada īpaši augstu afinitāti pret 5-HT2A receptoriem5.

Visiem, ko es pazīstu, 25I patīk vairāk nekā 25B un 25C, tas ir lielisks psihedēliķis un viegli iedarbojas uz prātu...
 

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domāju, ka es varētu būt dzirdējis par šo darbu, man būs apskatīties.....

Es zinu, ka ķīmija pagaidām ir pāri manai galvai, praktiskā nozīmē.

Es joprojām mēģinu reducēt 3,4,5-TMONS, ko esmu izgatavojis, uz atbilstošo PEA. Vienreiz tas izdevās, izmantojot NaBH4/CuCl2 metodi, bet vēl nepietiekami, lai to izmantotu. Manā paraugu kolekcijā pašlaik ir vairāki dažādi nitrostirēni/nitropropēni, un es domāju, ka es strādāšu ar to, kura man ir visvairāk, līdz es to izdarīšu pareizi!
 

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Jā. Var aizņemt vēl gadu tho 😂
 

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Man ir grūtības iegūt 2-metoksibenzaldehīdu 4. solim, vai to var aizstāt ar 4-metoksibenzaldehīdu, vai ir ieteikums par citu savienojumu?
 

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@WillD Sveiks kungs, man ir problēmas ar 2-metoksibenzaldehīda iegūšanu 4. solim, vai to var aizstāt ar 4-metoksibenzaldehīdu, vai ir ieteikums par citu savienojumu?
 

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It's not the same at all and I think unsubstituted is better than 4, salycilaldehyde is easier to come across and also what I methylated to get my 2-methoxybenzaldehyde besides being of known activity.
 

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It will be an analogue of NBOme, with a lower psychoactive potency, but I think it will work. As an experiment, it can be synthesized, but the issue of biotests should be approached carefully at such low dosages of these compounds.
 

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Issues i have with this:


° i think you are attempting to form edda in situ from ethylene diamine and acetic acid? Probably works but its not worth the slightly lower yield for the minimal time saved.

° amino acid catalysts produce far better yields for henrys (1)

° WHAT EVEN IS THAT REDUCTION OF A NITROALKENE LMAOOOOO 😭😭😭😭 makes no sense even in just grammatical terms 💀💀💀

° nbs bromination is superior even bromination with bromine has always worked out better for me than hbr (anecdotal however check both the hive and the vesp)

° Wtf is Et3N? im assuming triethylamine? what the fuck is that doing there lmao yeah it just doesnt need that X3(2)

° 30mins to 3hrs? yeah 1.5hr is perfect(3)

° This seems to literally just be scaled up without testing (although i somehow doubt op has any chem experience so i dont blame them) but this is a rather simple synthesis easily available online as either ralf hiems stuff, or the journal of chilean chemical society.

° WAY WAY too fucking much ethylene diamine assuming a density of 0.9g per ml 200ml = 180g which = 2.995 moles assuming a 75% yield of EDDA in situ (hopeful thinking considering rhodium supposedly got that separately) we would achieve roughly 2.2 moles which is enough for 22moles subbed aldehyde


° Some of my favourite quotes from here include :

"Extraction and distilled"
"500 g yellow oil (propane)"

”240 g base yellow oil."

You should also note that salicylaldehyde is acceptable for instead producing NBOHs an easier to find precursor being found naturally too (meadowsweet) (it can also be prepared through reimer tiemann like 2-methoxy but have you ever tried one? They fucking suck bad yield dirty reaction)p

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(1) https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10562-022-04228-4
(2) https://www.scielo.cl/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0717-97072014000300022 and page 233 of ralf hiems experimental
(3) page 233 of ralph hiems experimental (ss attached)
 
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