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5cl synthesis kits china

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i uploaded the original document from chinese supplier
 

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Exactly, according to my 7-8 year experience the king was 5F-SGT-151. Super difficult synthesis. 5F-ADB and 5F-MDMB-2201 were a slight level lower but still super potent. And from the noids hitting market the past year 6cl-adb-a is the strongest and then 5cl-adb-a. Still both of them are not like the king 5F-SGT-151 (5F-CUMYL-PEGACLONE). For a traditional 10 year noid smoker this ADB-Butinaca everybody is selling now is very very mild and low potency, and they won't come back for it , like they would for 6cl-adb-a. You need to double the quantity of applying butinaca on your "means" to get half the effects of 6cl-adb-a. We are currently trying to find this precursor cas. 1971007-89-2 - IUPAC - Methyl (S)-2-(1H-indazole-3-carboxamido)-3,3-dimethylbutanoate to try the current theread recipe , either with 1-bromo-5-pentene (probably result in 5cl-adb-a) or with 1-bromo-5-fluoropentane (probably result in something stronger). We are finding all ingredients domestically (EU), but for some reason, while even the fluoropentane has a normal price (expensive as molecule, but normal, i think it's a "fatty liquid") the pentene is super expensive. We just got scammed again on the precursor described above. And while we ordered some of the materials domesticaly we started looking for the precursor again. And sorry if I am violating rules about "sourcing" , but I am so fruhstrated...
I agree exactly with what you're saying. I believe I have the precursor you are talking about and it seems to me its the same as 5cl. You are right that reacting it with 5-bromo-1-pentene yields 5cl, impossible to crystallize, and I have reported having reacted the same precursor with 1-bromo-5-fluoropentane and obtaining a stronger product, and I presume it is 1971007-89-2, the S- isomer (or possibly racemic mixture, cas 1715016-75-3?). After some testing, I was able to notice increased yield of both when dried and freshly distilled DMF, freshly dried carbonate and carried under argon stream. I can't determine how much precisely but the traditional noid analysis machine will print out results with unquestionable data such as "DUUUUUUUDE I CANT MOVE" followed by a typical stream of memory dump indicating at least some 21,75% increase in yield*.
Another comment and question, it looks like there is a MDMB-5br-inaca going around as a precursor, perhaps to circumvent regulations. The appearance of it seems to be different, a strong yellow. Anyone heard or know about it? Any suggestion of a practical test or method to determine this presence of Br? By practical I mean not having FTIR, HPLC-MS, NMR or similar in the garage next to the lathe, where one's car should be.

* this document is for entertainment purposes only, no information should be taken seriously unless you are an idiot**.
** if you are an idiot, don't take this document seriously
 

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I agree exactly with what you're saying. I believe I have the precursor you are talking about and it seems to me its the same as 5cl. You are right that reacting it with 5-bromo-1-pentene yields 5cl, impossible to crystallize, and I have reported having reacted the same precursor with 1-bromo-5-fluoropentane and obtaining a stronger product, and I presume it is 1971007-89-2, the S- isomer (or possibly racemic mixture, cas 1715016-75-3?). After some testing, I was able to notice increased yield of both when dried and freshly distilled DMF, freshly dried carbonate and carried under argon stream. I can't determine how much precisely but the traditional noid analysis machine will print out results with unquestionable data such as "DUUUUUUUDE I CANT MOVE" followed by a typical stream of memory dump indicating at least some 21,75% increase in yield*.
Another comment and question, it looks like there is a MDMB-5br-inaca going around as a precursor, perhaps to circumvent regulations. The appearance of it seems to be different, a strong yellow. Anyone heard or know about it? Any suggestion of a practical test or method to determine this presence of Br? By practical I mean not having FTIR, HPLC-MS, NMR or similar in the garage next to the lathe, where one's car should be.

* this document is for entertainment purposes only, no information should be taken seriously unless you are an idiot**.
** if you are an idiot, don't take this document seriously
Hello friend and thank you for your answer and time. I have this precursor. 5BR-INACA (ADB-INACA) and I am waiting for the Alkyhalogen to start experimenting. (So hard to find). I ll definatelly keep this thread updated about any experiments and results with this precursor. I am attaching nomenclature of it. But... I a bit sceptic about this bromine atom up there at position 5 of the ring. Heating the mixture at 70° - 75° C is definatelly NOT going to break this carbon - bromine bond. So I have a slight idea , while the 5-bromo-1-fluoropentene, or the pentane, or the bromobutane is going to rephace the hydrogen connected to the nitrogen on the ring , still the final product will maintain this bromine atom there. Regardless the name which might be something like 5BR-ADB-5FLUORO..(something), this bromine atom there, might reduce potency. We will see I suppose. I also have this 5br inaca (or adb-incaca) precursor from 2 different batches and I have access to NMR. So all both the procursors and the resulting crystal or solid substance (if I succeed of course) are going to be detaily explained either here or either in a vid.
 

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I just came across a supplier who wanted to sell me the main precusor of 5cl and the remaining chemicals, but i am a bit skeptical. The risk of scamming is too great...!
 

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yes, the recipe is true, but what final product comes out of the reaction? Does anyone know if it was analyzed in the laboratory?
 

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5c材料

①. Main ingredient, 1kg
②. dmf, 2.5-3 liters (68-12-2)
③. Potassium carbonate, 700g (584-08-7)
④. 5-Bromo-1-pentene , 514 g (1119-51-3)

Step:
Add ①②③ into the reaction flask, stir, heat to 60-70 degrees,
Slowly add ④, react for 2-3 hours, cool to room temperature

How to get the finished product:
1. Add the reaction solution into ice water while stirring, and add it slowly. The obtained powder is the finished product.

2. The reaction solution was extracted twice with dichloromethane and water, concentrated to dryness, added 1.5kg of ethanol, put in the refrigerator for 1-2 days, and a crystalline powder was obtained, which is the finished product.

The first kind of finished product is not as good as the second kind good.

equipment:
①. 50 liter reactor,
②. 20 liter rotary evaporator,
③. freezer,
④. Suction filter (centrifuge),
⑤. Extraction and crystallization barrels 60 liters, 4 pieces,
 

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what substance comes out of the above reaction?
 

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Does anyone know what substance comes out of the above recipe and their synthesis? analyzed at the laboratory?


Does anyone know the chemical formula of the final product or the name?
 

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I've tried this synthesis recently, although product was active, I noticed that there was a lot of raw material left over, after stirring for 5 hours. Were they unreacted? I dont know.
If they were, seems like it would affect the potency of the product.

Any tips guys?
 
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