Dead drops or postal delivery?

[HEISENBERG]

Which is more convenient and safer for the seller and for the buyer?
Give two answers (from the seller's point of view and from the buyer's point of view)

 

[cubesquare]

I think this question is flawed.
Postal delivery is "convenient" but less safe.
Dead drops are "safe" but not convenient.
For both parties.

 

[HEISENBERG]

I think this question is flawed.
Postal delivery is "convenient" but less safe.
Dead drops are "safe" but not convenient.
For both parties.

cubesquareI don't know... I have experience with both and in my humble opinion dead drops are safe and convenient and postal delivery is inconvenient, time consuming and unsafe.

 

[cubesquare]

I don't know... I have experience with both and in my humble opinion dead drops are safe and convenient and postal delivery is inconvenient, time consuming and unsafe.

HEISENBERGDead drops are safe and convenient if you live in the middle of all your customers. When you are even a little remote, getting people to drive distances to hide things in places they aren't familiar with, is hectic. Also driving great distances to find things that have been left there is a massive inconvenience.
My nearest "reasonable expectation for a drop" is about 10 miles away.
Not safe to drive with goods for long distances, not good to drive up to something, have a look around and drive off again.
I LOVE the idea of drops, I just cannot see how they are feasible anywhere near me.

 

[bad_coco_melon]

Dead drops are safe and convenient if you live in the middle of all your customers. When you are even a little remote, getting people to drive distances to hide things in places they aren't familiar with, is hectic. Also driving great distances to find things that have been left there is a massive inconvenience.
My nearest "reasonable expectation for a drop" is about 10 miles away.
Not safe to drive with goods for long distances, not good to drive up to something, have a look around and drive off again.
I LOVE the idea of drops, I just cannot see how they are feasible anywhere near me.

cubesquareWe mean... this guy said it best. Dead drops are bad, postal services are cooler and more fly.

 

[curious]

Dead drops are safe and convenient if you live in the middle of all your customers. When you are even a little remote, getting people to drive distances to hide things in places they aren't familiar with, is hectic. Also driving great distances to find things that have been left there is a massive inconvenience.
My nearest "reasonable expectation for a drop" is about 10 miles away.
Not safe to drive with goods for long distances, not good to drive up to something, have a look around and drive off again.
I LOVE the idea of drops, I just cannot see how they are feasible anywhere near me.

cubesquareAlso, remember how Robert Hansen got caught. Dead dropping classified documents. It's not like someone can't just be waiting for you to show up... No major benefit over postal service IMO. Just more driving around with stuff you probably don't want to have with you.

 

[Passliem]

I think this question is flawed.
Postal delivery is "convenient" but less safe.
Dead drops are "safe" but not convenient.
For both parties.

cubesquareDear Heisenberg is right. Deaddrop is a perfect fit for both the buyer and the seller. However, many of my friends' friends were caught using the postal system. I still don't understand what else you want to know.

 

[cubesquare]

Dear Heisenberg is right. Deaddrop is a perfect fit for both the buyer and the seller. However, many of my friends' friends were caught using the postal system. I still don't understand what else you want to know.

PassliemI am not against dead drops at all. I would prefer to have them. But as far as I am aware there is nothing like that available anywhere here

 

[Passliem]

I am not against dead drops at all. I would prefer to have them. But as far as I am aware there is nothing like that available anywhere here

cubesquareBy here, where do you mean?

 

[cubesquare]

By here, where do you mean?

PassliemRural UK

 

[Passliem]

Rural UK

cubesquareThen provide for them to come since the products are in your hands. Work in bulk.

 

[cubesquare]

Then provide for them to come since the products are in your hands. Work in bulk.

PassliemI am not a vendor, not my game.

 

[cubesquare]

So I posted yesterday in Questions about dead drop delivery to spain. A bunch of views and zero replies.

So where do dead drops happen? What countries are making use of this method?

 

[bad_coco_melon]

NO COUNTRIES use it because its unreliable brother. Be real, HEISENBERG is only advertising this method because he is a visionary. He sees potential but this potential means nothing compared to the current method of shipping, post services are too convenient to use anything else.

 

[Passliem]

NO COUNTRIES use it because its unreliable brother. Be real, HEISENBERG is only advertising this method because he is a visionary. He sees potential but this potential means nothing compared to the current method of shipping, post services are too convenient to use anything else.

bad_coco_melonhaha, are you really sure that no country uses it, then sellers in eastern europe never existed.

 

[cubesquare]

haha, are you really sure that no country uses it, then sellers in eastern europe never existed.

PassliemThis is what I mean - I believe dead drops have been discussed before as being prevalent in places like Poland and Serbia - but I don't know where this extends to...
I mean I love the idea, and doing the drop is more risky for the vendor and less risky for the client I think, but the network of droppers have to be in place...
I mean I would happily drop for people in this area, but how does product get to me, are there enough buyers? Because I don't want to be part of the supply network, I just want to be logistics for last mile delivery haha

 

[workworkwork]

Dead drops is for example hide the drugs under a tree, inside a bag that looks like garbage? That looks so much work.

 

[workworkwork]

But if you have a forest near, for people that live in rural areas that looks perfect, very easy find places to hide the drugs, not much work.

 

[cubesquare]

But if you have a forest near, for people that live in rural areas that looks perfect, very easy find places to hide the drugs, not much work.

workworkworkJust not enough customers in rural areas...

 

[Nyarlathotep]

Just not enough customers in rural areas...

cubesquareIt is nice to manufacture in a rural area, though you have the problem of distribution and of course lack of customers...

 

[Nyarlathotep]

I don't have much of an option, there is no market for what I want to produce on my location. So, if I want to make some cash out of it I will have to sell it W.W. which I obviously can't dead drop, so, postal service to go.

 

[Passliem]

I don't have much of an option, there is no market for what I want to produce on my location. So, if I want to make some cash out of it I will have to sell it W.W. which I obviously can't dead drop, so, postal service to go.

NyarlathotepNow listen to me carefully, if you don't have an organised and professional team, you can't even dream of shipping drugs internationally.

 

[Passliem]

One thing that I noticed thanks to your message is my lack of connection with distributors... You see, my country have very few active Tor/I2P/etc users that are drug dealers/kingpins/distributors. It is rather hard to make such connections that's why I had the idea of shipping W.W.

NyarlathotepYes, I understand what you mean. I can't say anything for sure because you don't share your country. then you have to use your own creativity.Finally, for example, if you are carrying drugs within the country, this does not pose a big problem, you can even find something for yourself from videos on youtube, such as stashing in a water bottle.Stay Safe My FreshMeat.

 

[Passliem]

One thing that I noticed thanks to your message is my lack of connection with distributors... You see, my country have very few active Tor/I2P/etc users that are drug dealers/kingpins/distributors. It is rather hard to make such connections that's why I had the idea of shipping W.W.

NyarlathotepI would also like to say that dropoffs are already mostly used for international drug shipments (cars crossing borders, submarines in the ocean, gliders, etc.), but it would be useful to have a team here too(optional).