GROW MUSHROOMS! Cheap and easy at home!

[Chemtrail]

Nice tutorial!!!

Where is Part 2 ???

Quote : " Then another week or two to "birth" into the terrarium or "fruiting chamber" and for the first flush of mushrooms to be collected. "

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Part 2 ???? Lol

 

[Osmosis Vanderwaal]

A good clandestine mycologist is an accurate clandestine mycologist. Less than 1500 words for part 2 would be an insult, but 5000 is enough to explain it. MAYBE

 

[Chemtrail]

Couldn't the heat from a flame, be enough to sterilize the needle from a spore syringe??

Do it each time you inject shrooms spores in each hole of the jar (s) of spore colonization??

 

[Osmosis Vanderwaal]

Flame is the only absolute sterilizer, but if you flame it then wipe it with an alcohol prep pad, you shot yourself in the foot.

 

[mycelium]

The thing about the pf tek or brtek is that brown rice is VERY resistant to bacteria, which is why it was recommended. Like osmosis said, the shit is versatile, and amazing,
However, even idiot-priof stuff can be fucked up. Not wearing a mask and breathing onto the cakes is one way, your mouth is full of bacteria.
And mushrooms and spores are fungi not bacteria.

 

[Osmosis Vanderwaal]

Biggest mistake people make; shaking, inverting dropping or anything to your organs jars before they are ready to birth. Remember how you pushedntnar BRF/vermiculite down with a fork or spoon, so it was flat on top and cleaned the rim of the jar and poured the vermiculite or perlite on top, 1/2" or so, then you put the lid on top of the jar and put the lid/ring ect.
NEWS FLASH if you shake twist or turn that jar, then the filter layers could shift, exposing your delicious substrate, and now it it's ruined

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

Uncle Osmo, with all due respect sir, when I go through your comments sometimes when we engage in our PF Tek debates.. it makes me wonder sometimes... right here, I can't help but think about if you have ever actually even done this? I don't think I need to ask because you know alot more than me, and I know this... But it just seems like you have no clue how stupidly easy this is because you wouldn't be saying some of these things. I am confused, I guess, this because your position seems to be like this can't be done [readily/easily by many?] or at the least half as easy as I suggest or something.. ? How come? You would know damn well that the contents aren't budging - it is loosely packed in. Even if you went and played catch with them after, which is how you make it sound, that still shouldn't do much to disturb the inside contents.

Other than my excuses, (which make good learning points) ... - I can't say much other than I have been realizing lately just how lucky I have been with my results in the past. Because since trying to pick these activities up again after years off, I have been figuing out so many ways that these things don't work. I haven't produced anything but mold with this so far... more excuses and ways that this won't work, but I told you that was probably going to happen - that the batch got fucked up I aim to keep this as short and simple as possible, but instead, I come up with a whole book of what not to do on the side. I keep playing with things to see how far you can take it because I already know that if you follow this tightly - it will produce with great results.

 

[Osmosis Vanderwaal]

I sold probably 5000 lbs of substrate when I was doing it full time. I had about 30 species/strains, not counting novelty fungus. The best supplement to your substrate, being sawdust ( hardwood fuel pellets ) straw, coco coir. Regardless, it's rice-bran horse feed

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

You know, guys, I jump into these things with my balls first, because, I'm just that type of mother fucker. Laugh now, cry later. Life, I guess, right? Oh well.
How do you explain to an internet audience that the first time (or two) you tried something it succeeded and mostly every time since and worked great for years. A few times now I fail after trying to pick up said activity after long period of inactivity.. I foolishly give it full disclosure and show you all - I am being the gineua pig for everybody, for the entire experience here at BB.This whole shit is a learning experience for everyone to gain from, to be a student, a teacher, a vendor, a grower, a cook, etc. This all comes at my own expense... to you for free. My goal is to empower you. To free you from bondage to "the system". Instead of showing you endless fruiting chambers on sheves and acting like my shit doesn't stink, I show you, YOU ! YES YOU! Can grow all the shrooms you want also! OK. So maybe it takes a little more effort and than a fucking useless tweaker junkie has immediately off hand after wiping their brow. Apparently, it takes a deep inhale, an adjustment of the waistband and a second attempt.
Osmo, you know my whole purpose is to get people in the kitchen and trying to do something - for some of us ..that is all it takes! This is kinda like the gateway activity into chemistry, arguably, Or maybe extract some DMT? Eh, We'll do that next time... anyway, here everybody.. see if the shoe fits, huh?

This was an attempt to improve on the erowid page about cultivating mushrooms using the now "ancient" 'PF Tek' and not daunt them into paralysis as with Osmosis' "7 page summary of a 50+ page thesis about growing cubensis at home" .. Or something? And each page being as important as the next. (Forgive me if I am misrepresenting) But when I heard "it" I said, "No way." "Nobody would even bother to try to attempt shrooms at home if that was the case." - I did it with that erowid page with the PF Tek and didn't need or do 1/4 of it. So, I say, ...."You can do it with 1 page and $100."
And with my usual optimism, put my paw in my mouth.
Because I am always a day late and dollar short, but that is my own personal fault - I'm not telling fantasies, here, fellas...
That means..you can do this. Someone out there, go make me proud, huh!?

Cause guess what? If I was gonna rewrite this tomorrow, I would do it exactly the same. I can post the part two yesterday also. I can show you pictures from 15 years ago or whatever. I can keep promising to show you something that backs my cat sleeping on my keyboard up. I can do this that and the other thing and accomplish everything else I said I wanted to for you guys with nothing and noone and nobody will give a shit. You can choose to listen if you are trying to learn, that is all I was attempting to accomplish. Or you can ignore me. Or mock and criticize. Or Laugh. Or question. Please bring whatever you have, other than a police badge, which you can put up your ass. But yes, I thought I already mentioned here, there, or somewhere, about the spore syringes clogging up when I went to inject and this batch went to shit. I fucking hate doing this so much now. As I said, there was no error in the instructions, I fucked up and I haven't given enough of a shit to fix it before anyone noticed, so there, ya got me. I am not living up to the times I predicted for the process because I am dragging my feet, but here's my perspective. I am trying to grow shrooms to take a risk to teach and give away samples to random people for free. I am essentially risking my freedom to try to give shit away when I don't barely have shit as it is, I should be worried about getting a job and being homeless or getting arrested or whatever .. but instead..I 'm using my bottom dollar to get 1/4 oz. of Cubes to @Chemtrail and the next guy as Osmo is getting a stipend to bust my balls every step of the way by the same organization I am trying to promote... Just kidding everybody, Osmo you know I love you baby

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

Say what you want about me.. but don't ever try to diss my assistant!

You guys want part two? You want some shrooms? OK. I got you. Because I said "I would."
Right? Remember me?...Steve Spiros... ...easy going? ... ?

 

[Chemtrail]

PART 2

Go PART 2 ! Yay !!!

 

[ledzego]

Guys, I have a question.
What crypto-accepting spore stores y'all know that ship worldwide, regardless of the country?

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

That is a trick question because you aren't going to find one. You might, however, be able to find an individual that can perform said service.
IDK if any legitimate store is going to knowingly send something somewhere they know it isn't allowed. For what? To get called a scam by everybody who doesn't get their package? Tie up their merchandise with shipments that ultimately bring seizures instead of payments? I've had a half dozen spore syringes sitting around while people say they want them. Then I watch everyone play the hokey pokey in the private messages with one foot in and one foot out and they can't make up their mind about if their ass is gonna cash the check that their mouth wrote. They say they want them but when it comes down to it.. everyone goes ghost. So.. I hope that answers your (and anyone elses questions) about that. I was going to offer spore syringes with escrow but if you don't get the package and I don't get paid, that assumes I have or get the package back and everything is OK. Well if it gets lost or seized... you get your money back... but I don't get anything back cause it is lost or taken. What then? I can't afford to do that...

 

[·ledzego·]

Maybe, just maybe, I could get a certain website that ships the spores to Brazil (Ponta Pora area) and have it sent over here (If that last step doesn't work, I have some family members over there that can keep it for a while for me to retrieve it)
PS;I lost my other account

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

You might find someone, one or the other, but most likely like I say it will probably be an individual doing you a favor. Instead of sending spore syringes or spores in general in one form or another, I had this wild idea to send vacuum sealed innoculation bags that are colonizing while they are in travel. So you have your options of what to do with it when it arrives, if it is completely colonized. You could just birth it right away to get shrooms. Or break up the contents of the bag into more substrate to colonize even more material, such as with the agar dishes. It might be better for security depending on where its going.. to send the mycelium like that in the vacuum bag anyway instead of the spores or whatever.. might be the slick way to get it through that nobodys heard of. Would save time too.

 

[·ledzego·]

That is... actually a good idea! I just have one question, wouldn't it be a bit heavier than bringing a spore syringes? I mean, it is one of the least of my concerns how much shipping will cost but would it be a significant difference?

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

Yeah, it would be. Depending on the substrate material and moisture content. I was never very good at using spore prints on tin foil myself, or too many other methods, so I don't expect too many people getting into this to be either. That would be cheapest and safest of course, a bunch of prints sent in an envelope. You can do it all kinds of different ways, whatever works and to the buyers preference. Can send a kilogram package of innoculated moistened brown rice and vermiculite that will colonize in travel. It can be one whole piece. It can be 10 pieces of 100g cakes with different colonies - (GT, B+ PES, etc.) That way they will definitely be ready to go by the time you get them and if you fuck one up or it gets compromised, you don't have all your eggs in one basket. There will be a small fee but it would be worth it I think to have someone do it this way to make sure you get what you paid for.

 

[·ledzego·]

Me, as a aspiring small dealer, wouldn't really want the few people I can sell mushrooms to have the key to making their own shrooms, since they would (probably) not buy anymore from me, or any other dealer in general since it is easier and cheaper to grow their own things. When I have a larger customer base or start online selling, I will do the mycelium method to sell the shrooms to frequent customers or small dealers (like me right now).
I have one last question; How would be the process of exporting the spores from the US (or any other country) to a closer area, like Ciudad del Este or Ponta Pora?

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

When you start talking like that it makes my big hard on for helping shrink like a scared turtle. See, how it works is, now YOU need money to get anything else outta me...
It would be counter productive for me to help someone who is trying to play gatekeeper especially when it comes to something like mushrooms. You don't get all this shit for free and turn around and hold it over someone else... what's wrong with you, bro? That isn't how all this works.

 

[·ledzego·]

I'm sorry for gatekeeping the community, I wish you the best of lucks in your deals and that I, someday, stop gatekeeping. Until we meet again!

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

It is simple logic you know?
Someone takes the time to put this up for nothing so you can learn and do it yourself and hopefully tell and show your friends.
Not so you can make money from what I am going to call "medicine" .. to help and heal people.
We are trying to change the world. It's not about making money and getting high, but there is a time and place for that too. I learned the same way by reading this: https://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_mmgg.shtml
Who am I to say .. Hey nobody else can know about this but me ? When it was a gift to me and helped me so much in my journey.
I am just here to pass it on to others, because I want them to do the same.
So don't be sorry, just don't do it! The knowledge is free, it belongs to everybody. Share it !

Plus, you are from Brazil, my friend, I would imagine there are so many things you could do and sell or trade to the rest of the community.

 

[Alcohtek]

I have a quick question, if we harvest the mushrooms and place them directly in an electric dryer, does that work ? (it's not to dry them quickly) but I want to know if it's possible to do that

 

[Alcohtek]

My Search : 45°C + 30% RH — it’s a safe, effective, and balanced setting that works well for most drying scenarios. If you're drying for long-term storage, edibles, Is this correct information ?

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

You want a dehydrator or something if you plan on doing this over and over. A jerky-maker, you know? I use something like this:

https://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/Home-Garden/NESCO-FD-80A-Square-Shaped-Food-Dehydrator-For-Snacks-Fruit-Beef-Jerky-White/40771395/product.html?utm_source=connexity&cnxclid=17605625483100000581519291136008005&utm_medium=cpc&track=bizrate&cid=283047&option=83912064

You don't need something half as good but you need to make your shrooms dry so they SNAP and will grind into powder. Any moisture will make them turn gooey and moldy and rotten. You can use a toaster oven on low - just don't cook them ( >140F ~60c) Stick them in an air tight jar with a silica packet. Vacuum seal would be better. Minimal oxygen exposure will help long term storage. Along with a cool dark place.

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

Electric dryer? Like what? Show me an example. You can leave them out in front of a fan in the window and they'll dry eventually.. so if this thing uses low enough heat and is gentle otherwise and removes moisture efficiently than it should work OK..