has anyone here tried IV 4-MMC Mephedrone?

[TheMapleSyrup]

That mephedrone always smelled of cat's piss used to be true. But people have figured out other ways to synthesize it now that do not give off any odor. It can and does now come as an odorless very light pure white fluffy powder, and it doesn't leave you smelling of anything. Still FTIR tests as pure.

 

[mefistofeles]

hmm interesring, i tried it for the first time this year and since then ive done like 50gs maybe.

i was conpletely unaware of HOW MUCH i smelled.
i mean i knew i smelled but i didnt realize that people could smell it from 3m away.

but how come a different way of synthesis eliminates the odor if the substance itself is the same?

i know it can be in HCl and crystal form but i think HCl left you smelling too. ive read about it a lot.

maybe its not mephedrone then?

 

[mefistofeles]

these jolts are brain zaps, normal thing after abusing potent serotonin releasers.

never happened to me after 3cmc for example, i mean it did recently but after abusing meph for 3 months.

this happens because of serotonin downregulation

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

Yea, you can sort of infer that it is your brain trying to rewire itself after all the synapses have been fried. ;]

 

[RaraOppapapOma]

I tried it, I would say that it's a mix between meth and MDMA
it's great, like most other drugs... yay
but yeah it's corrosive so it will damage your veins

 

[dnBQByvHb8Zkawbjpx]

I have no way to measure or tell the damaging effect of the substance on veins. In my opinion the most important aspect is the short life of the substance which results in one stabbing their veins like every hour during a binge.

 

[szabiswitch]

200mg in 80ml for hardcore users who does it totally reckless.

 

[dnBQByvHb8Zkawbjpx]

80 ml? What???

 

[szabiswitch]

Oh sorry for my mistake. I means 8ml, because in the slang of these guys the 80water means 8ml.

 

[dnBQByvHb8Zkawbjpx]

That's still huge volume. I'd do 200 mg (or more) in 1.5 ml.

 

[szabiswitch]

Dunno. Im not use nothing in IV, but I see what doing the guys at there who makes iv.

 

[dnBQByvHb8Zkawbjpx]

Over here the standard for long-term IV abusers is 1 ml insuline syringe with integrated 30G needle. I use 2 ml syringes for their versatility. I can't imagine anyone using 8 ml, that volume is simply too large to the point if being completely impractical to sterilize and handle.

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

Guy who introduced me to cat once upon a time, used to shoot ridiculous amounts of meth. As a means of harm reduction he switched to m1, methylone, drone, whatever we could get. We went through a few different batches of more or less the same stuff. You were only good for 2 or 3 shots before it just didn't really do shit anymore and you didn't have a choice but to come down and sleep it off. Anyway, he would IV like .4-.5g. This stuff wasn't THAT strong, I was good with .25-3g. He would insist on only using like 4cc to draw up his shot, which he had to warm it up and slam it while it was still warm before it locked up. I always used closer to 8cc in 1ml syringes. It never made anything much more difficult or contributed to any contamination.

I find you want to make sure your shot isn't TOO thick, but you definitely want it to fit into as little volume as possible and do it all right the first time. Nothing worse than being half high trying to go back in and get the rest with your gizmo already clotting up or some other shit.

 

[mefistofeles]

i always wondered, hows someones health after shooting up so much different, probably very impure stims? when i read posts where people say that they shoot 0.5g at once my eyes become wide open from disbelief. i always wonder how is ones heart during this? and how is it overall? are you healthy? you dont have arrythmia or valvulopathy? or when i read that someone is shooting up coke i become even more suprised at how someone can survive a coke shot when healthy people are dying from heart attacks from regular, not even high coke doses nasally, its insane to me lol

so if i may ask, how is your health?

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

I have had a few periods of binging with various stims various ROAs. I wouldn't put myself in the same category with some other users though. I have never had any problems or consequences as a direct result of drug use. Had an infection one time from using IV and not being clean. Antibiotics took care of it. The only thing is the collapsing/disappearing veins. I've been an IV user for 20 years off an on, so I have punished myself over the years. For things like cocaine, you want to get an infusion line instead of poking yourself a fresh one every 10 minutes.

I was always pretty good about taking care of myself when I was doing things, and especially when I wasn't, such as when I was in jail for example. I exercised alot, all that stuff. It is all these little things on the inbetween that really make the difference between a healthy user and not. Showering every day, drinking lots of water and eating right. Even just lessening the nature and impact of the drugs if possible, if that makes any sense? For example, I prefer to speedball as my high of choice. I like a fat shot of strong opiates and a good stim. Because I go down with the up at the same time, I get the euphoria, but not the overwhelmingly intense rush like my heart is going to explode like you get from doing coke on its own. I never liked to be too far up unless it could be sustained for indefinite time. Not these intense rushes for 1 minute and then 30 mins of anxiety. So, to sum up, overall my health is quite fine and I haven't had anything noticably wrong. I have had extended sober time and made conscious efforts to improve myself also, and while using, trying to minimize damage and risks.

 

[mefistofeles]

thanks for the reply! good read

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

I don't want to be misleading or confusing in any way however.
When I was using IV heroin and cathinone daily, within two months I had lost about 40 pounds. I was a walking skeleton with my arms all bruised. I was like.. basketball diaries dope sick when they threw me in the cell. The longest few days of my life before I got bailed out. You think someone would smarten the fuck up and stop using opiates after all that. It just goes to show though, the nature of all of this. I will risk my life and freedom after suffering so much, just to continue to keep going with this substance. What does that say about how I feel about life without it? But I digress.

This stuff will really fuck you up if you let it. When I got arrested, they saved my life. That is the reality of it. If I didn't have these periods of time where they had physically took me away from everything and locked me in a room to cool off, I would have kept going until I was dead. Having said that, doing stuff like this for 20 years off and on takes its toll on you. Whether you are going full speed or taking care of yourself, it still adds up. Like I said, being able to have those time-out grace periods really allowed me to put some quality back into my state of being. Otherwise you are on a train you cannot get off. Life just keeps going and you have to do what you gotta do to keep up with it. I need to start slowing down and making some changes and efforts in positive directions while I still can, otherwise if I keep up the shit like I am still 20, it won't be long before things start catching up with me.