How to get small amount of d-meth?

[finch3523]

I am looking and looking to get my hands on pure d-meth. I enjoy it instead of methylphenidate or amphetamine in low dose as it makes less nervous or tense. Unfortunately all the common market stuff is not pure or is racemic or whatever...

1. So does somebody sell here a small amount of d-meth to germany?

2. If not what would be the easiest and most uncomplicated way to make it?

3. I saw that there are somewhere ampoules for injection to sell which contain ephedrine hcl 50mg/ml. Would that work if I get like 5g of ephedrine hcl? Do I still need to extract the ephedrine or can I just use the content of the ampoule? I mean it seems to be just water I guess.

4. Or does somebody here sell ephedrine hcl? or know a link to a shop (europe). what is a normal price for ephedrine?

5. I read that with ephedrine you can go straight to d-meth?

6. pseudo or ephe would make no difference?

7. What chemicals are difficult to get and where can I get them? What about phosporus?

8. Is crystalization step needed? I just want a pure product that I can then mix with water and then dose in mililiters for oral consumption. dont need shards or stuff.

9. what substances are the end result? and what is expected purity?

10. what equipment do I really really need. I dont plan to build a hobby lab as this hobby seems quite dangerous :-D

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

Dextroamphetamine synthesis (Nabenhower, 1942)

Introduction At the moment, there are many ways to synthesize dextroamphetamine. They can be divided into 3 types: biosynthesis (using biomass), direct synthesis, and synthesis of racemic (the sum of l- and d-isomers) amphetamine followed by separation of optical isomers. In our case, a...

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Starting from racemic freebase:
Essentially you precipitate L-R , where R is a phenethylamine, with d-tartric or d-camphorsulphonic yielding L-R L-tartrate/camphorsulphonate , your liquid only containing D-R, filter precipitate with desired acid.
Alternative is use l-tartric to precipitate racemate solution, yielding D-R D-tartrate, filtered , basified filtered solid, precipitated only D-R with desired acid.

 

[finch3523]

Dextroamphetamine synthesis (Nabenhower, 1942)

Introduction At the moment, there are many ways to synthesize dextroamphetamine. They can be divided into 3 types: biosynthesis (using biomass), direct synthesis, and synthesis of racemic (the sum of l- and d-isomers) amphetamine followed by separation of optical isomers. In our case, a...

bbgate.com

Starting from racemic freebase:
Essentially you precipitate L-R , where R is a phenethylamine, with d-tartric or d-camphorsulphonic yielding L-R L-tartrate/camphorsulphonate , your liquid only containing D-R, filter precipitate with desired acid.
Alternative is use l-tartric to precipitate racemate solution, yielding D-R D-tartrate, filtered , basified filtered solid, precipitated only D-R with desired acid.

UWe9o12jkied91dso this is to get dex-amphetamine from racemic amphetamine?

I can get dex amphetamine and racemic amphetamine from doctor prescription. Also there are reliable vendors on darknetmarket for pure dexamphetamine. So that is not the problem.

But I want d-methamphetamine which you cannot get prescribed here and quality of darknetmarket vendors is unreliable. So I am looking for some legit product here or most uncomplicated way to make it myself.

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

so this is to get dex-amphetamine from racemic amphetamine?

I can get dex amphetamine and racemic amphetamine from doctor prescription. Also there are reliable vendors on darknetmarket for pure dexamphetamine. So that is not the problem.

But I want d-methamphetamine which you cannot get prescribed here and quality of darknetmarket vendors is unreliable. So I am looking for some legit product here or most uncomplicated way to make it myself.

finch3523you can apply these to methamphetamine, hello?

 

[finch3523]

hmmm..... problem is that I dont know what these vendors with low to mid quality meth are actually selling. Its not that is just a racemic an thats it. Sometimes its fake meth or adulterated and maybe not even racemic. Never know.

 

[finch3523]

anybody here selling d-meth?

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

It dosen't matter if it's purely racemic or not, it can be 40/60 you don't care, you just take out the d part.For direct purchase of product may I advise going to Alphabay, I have seen hardly anyone selling meth here.

 

[finch3523]

It dosen't matter if it's purely racemic or not, it can be 40/60 you don't care, you just take out the d part.For direct purchase of product may I advise going to Alphabay, I have seen hardly anyone selling meth here.

UWe9o12jkied91d
So far I had no good success on alphabay getting any good quality thats d-meth. Thats why I am looking here.

 

[ymaaah]

for ephedrine hcl, catcafe.is sells enurace (ephedrine hcl), pharma quality, its a very good website, on rx meso, there is a post of this website !

 

[finch3523]

for ephedrine hcl, catcafe.is sells enurace (ephedrine hcl), pharma quality, its a very good website, on rx meso, there is a post of this website !

ymaaah
thanks, do you know whats usual price for ephe? Cannot see on that website because its not available there (guess out of stock)

 

[ymaaah]

I think the price is 80€ for 100 x 50mg of ephe

 

[finch3523]

Dextroamphetamine synthesis (Nabenhower, 1942)

Introduction At the moment, there are many ways to synthesize dextroamphetamine. They can be divided into 3 types: biosynthesis (using biomass), direct synthesis, and synthesis of racemic (the sum of l- and d-isomers) amphetamine followed by separation of optical isomers. In our case, a...

bbgate.com

Starting from racemic freebase:
Essentially you precipitate L-R , where R is a phenethylamine, with d-tartric or d-camphorsulphonic yielding L-R L-tartrate/camphorsulphonate , your liquid only containing D-R, filter precipitate with desired acid.
Alternative is use l-tartric to precipitate racemate solution, yielding D-R D-tartrate, filtered , basified filtered solid, precipitated only D-R with desired acid.

UWe9o12jkied91d
what means L-R when you write " L-R L-tartrate/camphorsulphonate". I mean what is the R for? Rotating?

 

[finch3523]

ah sorry, R means the amphetamine.

Somehow I cannot get d-tartaric acid. So I would need to use l-tartaric acid.

You say you do it with freebase? what if I have amphetamine sulfate as starter?

You say if using l-tartaric acid it is "yielding D-R D-tartrate". So then how do I separate that? Does it work with acetone? Acid, what acid is easy to get?

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

ah sorry, R means the amphetamine.

Somehow I cannot get d-tartaric acid. So I would need to use l-tartaric acid.

You say you do it with freebase? what if I have amphetamine sulfate as starter?

You say if using l-tartaric acid it is "yielding D-R D-tartrate". So then how do I separate that? Does it work with acetone? Acid, what acid is easy to get?

finch3523
You have sulphate, you dissolve it in minimal amount of water, to this solution you add NaOH solution until you observe an organic layer forming on top of your aq layer. You extract that tiny organic layer with some toluene,xylene,pether, hexane etc.(2-3 times) The extracts you separate, dry and voila you have an amphetamine freeebase solution you can play with.
Yes, using L tartric you get D-meth L-tartrate which is not suitable for storage, is hygroscopic etc. You get around this simply by filtering it off. Your liquid will contain mostly L-fraction so we set it aside. Now with the solid we got which is our D-portion we dissolve AGAIN in water, AGAIN we add NaOH and obtain our freebase but now made of mostly D.AGAIN we extract with suitable solvent a few times, combine, dry , precipitate with sulphuric.
Hope it's clear, read the threads I linked.

For final precipitation you can use sulphuric or phosphoric, sulphuric dry from the freezer in acetone is best.Phosphoric has a lot of water in it and it's gonna make you a lot of headache that you don't need in your life.

 

[finch3523]

how do i separate with toluene, xylene, ...?
also I need magnesium for drying?

 

[UWe9o12jkied91d]

how do i separate with toluene, xylene, ...?
also I need magnesium for drying?

finch3523You take the solvent, pour it over your reaction mass, pour the whole thing in a separatory funnel, cap vent shake, don't use too much or you will over dilute your freebase
Yes, magnesium sulphate, sodium sulphate, barium oxide or even NaOH or NaCl even though they don't work as well.You can also wash with brine once again after ejecting your aq. layer from sepratory funnel.

 

[finch3523]

*bump* anybody selling some small amount of pure d-meth?