Meth hcl salts to crystals how to?

[Dontstopgetit]

Hey so one of my friends bro gave him a water bottle filled with liquid anyways my friend hands me the bottle and says it needs to be vap’d off
So I put the entire contents in a Pyrex dish and watched it evaporate and all that was left was some white ish salt which I’m guessing is meth hcl?
how would i Crystalise that? Cause when tried to smoke it it takes so long to crack back and when it does it’s like tiny tiny things if that makes sense

 

[Frit Buchner]

The right shit would look a lot like spider webs, circular dodads of eminating rays. What you describe is nothing like meth hcl.

 

[Dontstopgetit]

The right shit would look a lot like spider webs, circular dodads of eminating rays. What you describe is nothing like meth hcl.

Frit BuchnerSorry I should of explained in detail

so when I attempted to vap off, obviously I didn’t have enough knowledge
I poured it in a dish and placed it directly over heat which left me with the solid product dry product at the end however I must of heated it so quick that the end product was cloudy and not crystal looking so I mistakenly tipped tap water in it to dissolve it instead of distilled h20
Anyways tried it and it definitely is the product but is there anyway to fix the look of it and the time it takes to set after lighting it?

 

[Frit Buchner]

Sorry I should of explained in detail

so when I attempted to vap off, obviously I didn’t have enough knowledge
I poured it in a dish and placed it directly over heat which left me with the solid product dry product at the end however I must of heated it so quick that the end product was cloudy and not crystal looking so I mistakenly tipped tap water in it to dissolve it instead of distilled h20
Anyways tried it and it definitely is the product but is there anyway to fix the look of it and the time it takes to set after lighting it?

DontstopgetitAn A/B extraction would do a lot towards that goal. I have a chart of miscibility in my files but basically you would use a basic chemical to neutralize the hcl and collect the oil floating on the top( this is methamphetamine base) then dissolve that in another solvent and bubble HCl gas through it or just add HCl acid dropwise and precipitate the meth HCl, then recrystallize it

 

[Shagnazty101]

The right shit would look a lot like spider webs, circular dodads of eminating rays. What you describe is nothing like meth hcl.

Frit BuchnerI could be mistaken, but I believe you're referring to what we in the USA as "wagon wheels". Usually seen in what's called idiot ephedrine. That's dope that isn't done reacting, it was taken off too soon. I'm referring to a red p method. Actual meth, when vaped are a ring of long sharp crystals pointed inward towards the center, all the way around the dish. Inside are "V" shaped crystals. That's what's seen on the surface. Underneath is what resembles wet sugar...until it dries completely.
But that is highly hydroscopic. To form the crystals I thing dude is wanting...simply dissolve your shit in like warm alcohol, ethal alcohol and and just a bit of distilled water. Just enough to dissolve what you have. Let sit until dry. Do not disturb it until dry.
Thank you.

 

[Shagnazty101]

The right shit would look a lot like spider webs, circular dodads of eminating rays. What you describe is nothing like meth hcl.

Frit BuchnerI meant IDIO EPHEDRINE. Spell checker got me again. I didn't mean idiot.... Lol

 

[Frit Buchner]

I meant IDIO EPHEDRINE. Spell checker got me again. I didn't mean idiot.... Lol

Shagnazty101Iodoephedrine. You got your self this time iodine- ephedrine an intermediate when you use hydronic acid or iodine phosporus. That still looks like eutylone to me but looks ain't everything. Sometime I take my burnt meth andrun acetone through it and dry it in a pie pan on the stove and it looks similar to thisvtoo but a little shinier

 

[Shagnazty101]

Iodoephedrine. You got your self this time iodine- ephedrine an intermediate when you use hydronic acid or iodine phosporus. That still looks like eutylone to me but looks ain't everything. Sometime I take my burnt meth andrun acetone through it and dry it in a pie pan on the stove and it looks similar to thisvtoo but a little shinier

Frit BuchnerI'm not saying that I'm positive that is what it is .. I do agree though, that it nothing I would trust, first and foremost, and unless dude is looking for some bad karma, he shouldn't put it out on the streets for someone else to maybe die from. For all I know, you could be right on what it is, but I'm sure we agree that it's better suited in the trash can than to possibly hurt anyone. I would be very wary of the asshole that gave it to him. Anyone that puts the time, effort and risk involved to cook something up, damn sure isn't gonna just give it away. That is, unless he wants you out of the picture. That's the ONLY reason I can think of. If someone were to give me something like that, I would crack it back out of curiosity. Anyone would. But if it came back like that? I would have a few boys look into it for me up close and personal like. Idk really... At the least, I would be very wary of the guy.
It's the sociology aspect of the business that was most difficult for me years ago also. But after two convictions because I trusted someone, ..

 

[Frit Buchner]

I'm not saying that I'm positive that is what it is .. I do agree though, that it nothing I would trust, first and foremost, and unless dude is looking for some bad karma, he shouldn't put it out on the streets for someone else to maybe die from. For all I know, you could be right on what it is, but I'm sure we agree that it's better suited in the trash can than to possibly hurt anyone. I would be very wary of the asshole that gave it to him. Anyone that puts the time, effort and risk involved to cook something up, damn sure isn't gonna just give it away. That is, unless he wants you out of the picture. That's the ONLY reason I can think of. If someone were to give me something like that, I would crack it back out of curiosity. Anyone would. But if it came back like that? I would have a few boys look into it for me up close and personal like. Idk really... At the least, I would be very wary of the guy.
It's the sociology aspect of the business that was most difficult for me years ago also. But after two convictions because I trusted someone, ..

Shagnazty101If it was eutylone, you would know it. Eutylone tastes like black licorice and nothing like meth. Which to me tastes like sometimes sulphur or iodine but not licorice for sure

 

[Frit Buchner]

I'm not saying that I'm positive that is what it is .. I do agree though, that it nothing I would trust, first and foremost, and unless dude is looking for some bad karma, he shouldn't put it out on the streets for someone else to maybe die from. For all I know, you could be right on what it is, but I'm sure we agree that it's better suited in the trash can than to possibly hurt anyone. I would be very wary of the asshole that gave it to him. Anyone that puts the time, effort and risk involved to cook something up, damn sure isn't gonna just give it away. That is, unless he wants you out of the picture. That's the ONLY reason I can think of. If someone were to give me something like that, I would crack it back out of curiosity. Anyone would. But if it came back like that? I would have a few boys look into it for me up close and personal like. Idk really... At the least, I would be very wary of the guy.
It's the sociology aspect of the business that was most difficult for me years ago also. But after two convictions because I trusted someone, ..

Shagnazty101Someone sent me a free sample of eutylone a couple weeks ago, it was the first time I have seen it in person. This is definitely not it. Eutylone doesn't "crack back" in any stretch of the imagination. It turns into a brown amorphous solid reminiscent of amber. No crystals at all

 

[Frit Buchner]

If you just want to make it better but don't require it to be "ice" than you could crush it as fine as possible and rinse it with ice cold acetone. Another option is to dump boiling anhydrous alcohol on it and filter it hot. Then you could still attempt to recrystallize it but if won't get completely clear that way

 

[Dontstopgetit]

Heya what solvent wouldn’t be the best as I did another cook and my end product looks like this
Taste really salty like real strong lol and of course takes years to crack back in the pipe it’s almost just meth oil that I tried to vap down and crystallise what have I done wrong and how can I fix? I’ll send a photo soon

 

[loadingST]

Its probably a meth made by ethyl 2 phenylacetoatate (the bmk precursor) and reduced by Al/Hg (Im almost shure because the first time i made meth this route the outcome was the same looking, slow crack-backing stuff and at the end when its smoked it some sort of boiled ( distilation removed the impirites and never had such a problem ever)

 

[gumkac1]

yes it looks like p2p meth. if that's the case, you probably won't get the crystal. Even though today I basically managed to accidentally crystallize meth racemate, I'm attaching a photo of this, I was amazed, I've never seen anything like it. It crystallized for about a month in a closed container at about minus 5 degrees Celsius. If you have D-meth, simply dissolve it in alcohol, heat it, then filter it and leave it to crystallize slowly. Or try frozen acetone. There are many instructions for recrystallization

 

[Frit Buchner]

Now that this has come back into my feed, that ( the op) is definitely not meth. It's the stuff China is selling as a research chem. It's a substituted cathinone. They call it BU crystal or some such. It's a stimulant for sure, killed a few dozen people. I wasn't aware of it's existence when this was posted, but I'm confident that what's in your pictures is a cathinone and definitely not methamphetamine

 

[Shagnazty101]

Now that this has come back into my feed, that ( the op) is definitely not meth. It's the stuff China is selling as a research chem. It's a substituted cathinone. They call it BU crystal or some such. It's a stimulant for sure, killed a few dozen people. I wasn't aware of it's existence when this was posted, but I'm confident that what's in your pictures is a cathinone and definitely not methamphetamine

Frit BuchnerIt reminds me of a red p and I cook that wasn't done reacting. Won't crack back when initially vaped. Let stand and it comes back all sorts of gooey sticky stuff and who knows what color.
But all the red p I've ever done vapes back long skinny sharp crystals pointed in, on the outside, while the center is a cluster fuq of v shaped crystals. Nothing like what he's showing. Why would you even attempt to trust someone that much to be his guinea pig, I have no idea. First red flag, he gave it to you to vape off....? Uh huh...and did he think he done so from the kindness of his heart? I would be very cautious of your friend, if I were in your shoes.

 

[loadingST]

Now that this has come back into my feed, that ( the op) is definitely not meth. It's the stuff China is selling as a research chem. It's a substituted cathinone. They call it BU crystal or some such. It's a stimulant for sure, killed a few dozen people. I wasn't aware of it's existence when this was posted, but I'm confident that what's in your pictures is a cathinone and definitely not methamphetamine

Frit BuchnerIt looks prety much as meth with traces magnesium sulfate or sodium sulfate or just the slow crystalization reacemate crystals looks like that in my long experience of making meth different ways the precuror i mentioned had impurities problems when reduced but who knows no one can identy a substance from picture ..