"MY" MDMA freebase crystallization

[btcboss2022]

Very cool!

It seems like they're adding directly to the freebase with no solvent which worries me lol

GaleOf course you can mix the freebase with solvent before adding the HCL but later you Will need more time to put the mixture at 130C due this solvent will be evaporated, with the HCL from freezer, the freebase cold too and avoiding high temperatures during the addition wont be any problem ;-)

 

[Hank Schrader]

Of course you can mix the freebase with solvent before adding the HCL but later you Will need more time to put the mixture at 130C due this solvent will be evaporated, with the HCL from freezer, the freebase cold too and avoiding high temperatures during the addition wont be any problem ;-)

btcboss2022Do you know that MDMA cannot be heated with acids to high temperatures? The product breaks down and is no longer pure MDMA.

 

[azides]

Acid is neutralized with the freebase is not an acidic mixture if something were wrong with the process the product wont be reported by the lab as 95% pure MDMA.

btcboss2022Most labs can't tell the difference between MDMA or MDDMA or MDMMA the first 2 have the same mol weight as well.

Only NMR can tell MDMA vs MDDMA

 

[Mr Good Cat]

2. Heat the mixture gradually while stirring until 130C

3.Has ready a bucket, with 10 times the volume of initial freebase, of freezed acetone that has been at least 48 hours in freezer

4. When mixture is at 130C stop heating and pour It fast in the acetone bucket with vigorously stirring.

5. Leave the bucket in the Freezer at least 72 hours.

6. Take out the bucket and Filter solids with vacuum until It get dry, at the final part of that process pour a small amount freezed acetone over the solids to wash them before totally dry. The filtered acetone is keep It in the Freezer to try to crystallize more material if nothing else crystallized you can let the acetone dry at RT in a flat plate or similar to recover material or freebase

btcboss2022I did apply your method in this part for recrystallization of ready product.
I.e. ready crystals were dissolved, then heated up to 130C, then thrown to the frozen acetone. Works very well.

 

[$!$]

I did apply your method in this part for recrystallization of ready product.
I.e. ready crystals were dissolved, then heated up to 130C, then thrown to the frozen acetone. Works very well.

Mr Good CatU use only aceton or aceton with water??

 

[Mr Good Cat]

U use only aceton or aceton with water??

$!$If I crystallize hot mdma hcl (130c) in frozen acetone i use acetone only, 500-1000 ml per 100 gr of mdma hcl (depends on product purity)

I also recrystallize mdma hcl in 10% water + 90% acetone solution. But it is different process for different purpose

 

[Mr Good Cat]

@btcboss2022 as i remember i wrote something wrong about your product long time ago, Sorry for that, considering new experience i can say, we must be able to admit mistakes. Sorry brother, I was wrong: black color makes confused, but your product is perfect!

 

[alquimista00]

@btcboss2022 as i remember i wrote something wrong about your product long time ago, Sorry for that, considering new experience i can say, we must be able to admit mistakes. Sorry brother, I was wrong: black color makes confused, but your product is perfect!

Mr Good CatIs there a way to purify black crystal and turn them into completely clean crystal?

 

[Mr Good Cat]

Is there a way to purify black crystal and turn them into completely clean crystal?

alquimista00Everything is possible. It is matter of time, solvents and how dirty is your product at the beginning.

 

[alquimista00]

I read a lot of different threads and posts asking and talking about MDMA freebase crystallization methods.
I guess many of them are tested and other ones are only taken from litherature.
I tested some of them and as always I post the most effective in my case and for what I need that dont means that is the BEST method only means that is the BEST one for ME.
Normally I dont like to post detailed methods as this one Im very cautios with them because people used to understand that Im posting the BEST and unique method with all the collateral consequencies that It has, I prefer to post complete and concrete synth not General methods.

Anyway here It is:

1. Add portionwise cold HCL37% to the MDMA freebase(previously cooled too) while stirring until PH 3.

2. Heat the mixture gradually while stirring until 130C

3.Has ready a bucket, with 10 times the volume of initial freebase, of freezed acetone that has been at least 48 hours in freezer

4. When mixture is at 130C stop heating and pour It fast in the acetone bucket with vigorously stirring.

5. Leave the bucket in the Freezer at least 72 hours.

6. Take out the bucket and Filter solids with vacuum until It get dry, at the final part of that process pour a small amount freezed acetone over the solids to wash them before totally dry. The filtered acetone is keep It in the Freezer to try to crystallize more material if nothing else crystallized you can let the acetone dry at RT in a flat plate or similar to recover material or freebase

7. Once is completely dried Crush it and convert all into powder.

8. Solve the powder in distilled hot water(1gr/1ml).

9. When all the powder is solved Heat the mixture until 112C with some stirring and throw It fast into the cristallization bucket choosen.

10. Leave the bucket in a "calm" place, no Air flow, no movements, vibrations... At least 48 hours at RT after 48 hours put It 30 min in the Freezer before Filter It.

11. Filter the crystals and wash them with freezed acetone, the filtered liquid is saved to add It in the step 9 in the Next batch.

I Hope this method could solve most of crystallization issues that you could and the questions sent too.

I would like to clarify again that is not the BEST method or the unique one, Its just one more there are a lot of methods and techniques Im just posting the more appropiate for me, for my case and for my circumstances.

Thanks.

btcboss2022hello, i have managed to make large crystals thanks to this guide, but i have a problem finishing drying the crystals, they are very wet inside when you break a crystals in half, i would like to know how i can finishing drying them well?

 

[btcboss2022]

hello, i have managed to make large crystals thanks to this guide, but i have a problem finishing drying the crystals, they are very wet inside when you break a crystals in half, i would like to know how i can finishing drying them well?

alquimista00Thats about pH not about drying

 

[alquimista00]

so that means the ph drops a lot ??
but i cheked when i took it out of the freezer and it was at 7.

 

[btcboss2022]

so that means the ph drops a lot ??
but i cheked when i took it out of the freezer and it was at 7.

alquimista00Better 4 to avoid oily crystals.

 

[alquimista00]

Ok, thanks a lot.

 

[Mdp2p]

The real Mdma

 

[Mr Good Cat]

The real Mdma

Mdp2pI also do funny things sometimes. This time I left a bottle with mdma hcl leftovers in water for a week in the basement storeroom. This is what I got after a week in the closed bottle: 14 gr transparent crystal.

 

[Mr Good Cat]

@btcboss2022 bro, what is your suggestion for final crystals washing for the lay people, if acetone is not available in the country?

 

[btcboss2022]

@btcboss2022 bro, what is your suggestion for final crystals washing for the lay people, if acetone is not available in the country?

Mr Good CatMaybe is easier know first what is available in your country and choose the best of them ;-)

 

[Mr Good Cat]

Maybe is easier know first what is available in your country and choose the best of them ;-)

btcboss2022I don't know exactly it is not my country, but as per buyer's first glimp,- methanol, ethanol 96%, pet. ethers (don't fit in this case i guess), acetaldehyde.

 

[btcboss2022]

I don't know exactly it is not my country, but as per buyer's first glimp,- methanol, ethanol 96%, pet. ethers (don't fit in this case i guess), acetaldehyde.

Mr Good CatSometimes in emergency cases I used freeze hexane or freeze ethyl acetate.

 

[orgasmatron]

I don't know exactly it is not my country, but as per buyer's first glimp,- methanol, ethanol 96%, pet. ethers (don't fit in this case i guess), acetaldehyde.

Mr Good CatI have used Ethyl Acetate and Acetonitrile for recryst. many times but only for cleaning meth ( not creating crystals as described)
Using Ethyl Acetate, I have never been able to fully dissolve 100% at boiiling point, no matter how much excess I used. Still, it leaves behind very clean meth, especially the small percentage that in fact crystalizes out after initial solution is filtered and filtrate put in the freezer. Acetonitrile does dissolve everything ( I dont know the usual ratio but as soon as I have an opportunity I'll take notes to share) but it does not remove all the colorizing impurities by itself, but if one adds activated charcoal and filters through celite in a large porous hot glass buchner ( no filter paper, so that it can run quickly)(otherwise it can and will solidify within the pores and clog the entire thing, mix with celite precipitates, create a real real mess, my advice is to experiment before scaling up).
Now for my question, does one have to separate MDMA enantiomers to produce big, glassy crystals?

 

[ELON-JAYZ]

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[The-Hive]

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