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Amfetaminsyntese fra P2NP via Al/Hg (video)
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Is 80% acetic acid good enough?
- By G.Patton
You can use it but you have to recalculate it and take it more than GAA.
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The stoichiometry is correct ? Isn't it very excess for only 10 grams?
Also what is your opinion about replacing GGA/Acetic acid with Phosphoric acid 85%, replace IPA with methanol (for boiling) and allowing direct extraction with hexane after alkalization -> brine wash till brine no longer takes dirt and simply evaporate the hexane ?
And regarding the foil, I personally suggest 0.03 0.05MM thick (technical aluminium foil) compared to supersmarket householdfoil.
In this reaction, once tried, I must actually check it myself perhaps use even thicker.
Also what is your opinion about replacing GGA/Acetic acid with Phosphoric acid 85%, replace IPA with methanol (for boiling) and allowing direct extraction with hexane after alkalization -> brine wash till brine no longer takes dirt and simply evaporate the hexane ?
And regarding the foil, I personally suggest 0.03 0.05MM thick (technical aluminium foil) compared to supersmarket householdfoil.
In this reaction, once tried, I must actually check it myself perhaps use even thicker.
What do you mean ? 10L MDP2P batches are no problem with thick alu foil and 10 grams mercury chloride per liter MDP2P and little excess methanol. Reaction takes about 4-5 hours and it boils itself slowly, you can even put plastic drum lid on it no stress.
Then hexane extraction and brine wash as usual.
You think there will come explosion with P2NP ? If you think it's really that violent I can use less foil and once the boiling tempreture is reached simply add foil till all is consumed what should be added. But still I find it stunning why we need to use so much glacial acetic acid. Looking at the 'strenght' of for example sulfuric acid, wouldn't that be a better alternative ? As I have read HCL could also be used so why would not be sulfuric acid ?
Do you put a certain stoichemitry, or do you put the post-reaction mixture at a certain pH, before you add the mercury/foil ?
I know a friend of mine used ammonia chloride for MDA synthese I think was also Al/Hg, perhaps is that also a possiblity here ?
Sorry for my little problematic English.
Then hexane extraction and brine wash as usual.
You think there will come explosion with P2NP ? If you think it's really that violent I can use less foil and once the boiling tempreture is reached simply add foil till all is consumed what should be added. But still I find it stunning why we need to use so much glacial acetic acid. Looking at the 'strenght' of for example sulfuric acid, wouldn't that be a better alternative ? As I have read HCL could also be used so why would not be sulfuric acid ?
Do you put a certain stoichemitry, or do you put the post-reaction mixture at a certain pH, before you add the mercury/foil ?
I know a friend of mine used ammonia chloride for MDA synthese I think was also Al/Hg, perhaps is that also a possiblity here ?
Sorry for my little problematic English.
- By G.Patton
This discussion not about MDP2P.
You can perform this synthesis even without GAA. Look at this tutorial.
In case of more of 100g P2NP, It will be impossible to control this too violate exothermic reaction and dissipate heat. It can blow up. You can experiment with foil addition but don't think that it will lead to any result due to nature of this reaction.
You can perform this synthesis even without GAA. Look at this tutorial.
In case of more of 100g P2NP, It will be impossible to control this too violate exothermic reaction and dissipate heat. It can blow up. You can experiment with foil addition but don't think that it will lead to any result due to nature of this reaction.
Can I evaporate water from the electrolyte for the battery and use this sulfuric acid? , Is there a guide maybe on the forum on how to safely evaporate this?
Can I just use sodium chloride instead of sodium thiosulfate for drying solvent ?
- By GhostChemist
absolutely no
sodium thiosulphate is Na2S2O3 (may be you mean Na2SO4 sodium sulphate, so it is drying agent)
sodium chloride is not drying agent
sodium thiosulphate is Na2S2O3 (may be you mean Na2SO4 sodium sulphate, so it is drying agent)
sodium chloride is not drying agent
I'm using 99% sulphuric, is this okay to add directly into acetone then added drop wise to a-oil?
Or should I dilute my sulphuric with IPA before adding to acetone??
Or should I dilute my sulphuric with IPA before adding to acetone??
- By GhostChemist
"I'm using 99% sulphuric, is this okay to add directly into acetone then added drop wise to a-oil?" - this way is right. Dissolve 99% sulphuric acid in acetone and add to a-oil (more better dissolve a-oil in aceton too)