MDMA-Synthese über NaBH4 aus MDP2P

[Dutchiechemist]

Hi there,

Can you please explain how to control the temperature in a bioreactor and what to do if you cant get your hands on hcl gas

 

[G.Patton]

Hello, what bioreactor do you mean? I don't get your questions.

 

[Dutchiechemist]

Hi there,

how are you i cant get a supplier for all the chemicals i need for this synthesis. Can anyone provide me a supplier with normal prices.
Thanks

 

[Anarchy Labz]

Hi, if methylamine gas was substituted with ammonia gas to produce MDA would the yield still be high? I wanted to make MDA but Leuckart has low yields.

 

[G.Patton]

Hi. Yes, you can use NH4OH solution for MDA.

 

[Win Win]

Can i use 300g 40% methylamine solution mixed with 3000g methanol with 350g 3mmMolecular formula

 

[G.Patton]

What? Please, write clearly.

 

[Win Win]

I realise that I can't find methylamine methanol. Can I use 300 ml of 40% methylamine aqueous solution plus 3000 ml of methanol and then add a molecular sieve to replace methylamine meyhanol?

 

[G.Patton]

You have to avoid any water there. I don't think that molecular sieves will remove it from the reaction mixture.

 

[Win Win]

Because your formula is uses methylamine methanol. I have try to do myself. This is the formula i made it myself. Add 670 grams of methylamine HCI to 1000 grams of methanol, and then add 390 grams of sodium hydroxide. Stir with room temperature . Dissolve all solids in methanol, let the temperature cool down to 10 degrees, and then add 220 grams of anhydrous sodium sulphate to dry for 12 hours. After drying, it will suck out some solid and unimportant things after cooling to -10 degrees. Then filter it, collect it and seal it. This formula is it ok?

 

[G.Patton]

try and share us your experience =)

 

[Win Win]

I just want to ask if this recipe is feasible.

 

[G.Patton]

I'm not sure that 670g of methylamine HCl can be solved in 1000g of methanol. And also 390g of NaOH.

 

[Win Win]

Yes i have try this before. But i am fail. Maybe I heated it. Now i will try use room temperature. But when we add sodium hydroxide the temperature will be up. Doesn't matter?

 

[Win Win]

I have try this before. Add670 grams of methylamine hcl to 1000 grams of methanol, and then add 390 grams of sodium hydroxide and stir at room temperature. Do not exceed 50 degrees. Let all solids dissolve in methanol and stop stirring. After cooling to 10 degrees, add 220 grams of anhydrous sodium sulphate and dry for 12 hours. After drying, it will suck out some solid and unimportant things after cooling to -10 degrees. Then, filter, collect, seal and preserve.

 

[Win Win]

hi sir this is the formula i did. Do you think my method is okay?
1000 grams of mdp2p, add 1300ml of methylamine methanol solution, and then add 1500ml of methanol, add 350 grams of molecular sieve, start the stir and heat up to 50 degrees. After half an hour of reaction, add 10 grams of glacial acetic acid, and then maintain the reaction for 2.5 hours. When the time is reached, the temperature begins to cool down below 10 degrees, add 110 grams of sodium borohydride. slowly put in several times, stir for a few seconds each time, do not stir after casting, stir for half an hour after standing still for 12 hours, then stand still for 2 hours, use hydrochloric acid to adjust to ph 2-3, evaporate methanol, and then use sodium hydroxide solution to ph-12. Extract it once with 3000 grams of dichloromethane, extract it with 500 grams of dichloromethane in the water layer, wash it twice, add anhydrous sodium sulphate to dry it, and then filtered Get oil. Use hydrochloric acid gas value to PH-2 and continue to stir for 30 minutes to observe the obvious crystal precipitation, and then filter to obtain a solid.

 

[Win Win]

Sir i try your formula make the methylamine methanol ald. And i also try use your method to do mdma. Seprate with water and dcm. But bottom is brown colour down is like powder.

 

[Win Win]

This formula is feasible.

 

[RainbowChemical]

Hi, thank you for sharing. May I ask you why you say this is superior though? Is the product superior or just the reaction method? The reason I ask is because there has been a significant decrease in quality in methamphetamine and I heard the same thing has happened with amphetamines. I heard from a few different people that meth made using NaBH4 doesn't work. Is not psycho active. They compared using it to smoking a cigarette. A few years ago the methamphetamine I was doing would show up in a urine drug screen as 3 different things: meth, amphetamines, and, mdma. Today it only shows up as methamphetamine, but it tests the correct color in a marquis, mecke, and libermann test. I know about the different enantimors. It could be L-meth. Maybe people are using sudafed that isn't kept behind the counter. I could speculate all day, but one thing I'm certain of is that this is something everyone has noticed in my town. It seems it is not in my state at all. However, I got some from California recently and it was the same exact junk. That really was surprising and disappointing. I know its not a tolerance issue. This is something everyone who is using this stuff says. It isn't meth. Not the right kind anyway. So in my quest to solve this issue Ive buried myself in research and chemistry classes.
Before I waste time with these reactions I would like to ask are you someone who has tested the product out or are you someone who just knows molecularly its mdma because you work in a lab? I have been focused on collecting what I need for an Acid Catalysed Bayer Villiger Reaction in a 3 step synthese to get to methamphetamine. But since seeing those comments about product that comes from reactions using NaBH4 being bunk, I'm worried and wondering if perhaps I should try a different way. I know this post is about mdma but the two usually have closely related synthesis and ingredients. Most people who can make one have made or know how to make a handful of other drugs, including methamphetine. Thank you very much for your time. Any feedback or guidance you can offer would be greatly appreciated.

 

[G.Patton]

Hello, same formula, same product. You just need to purify it.
By the way, there are different meth video syntheses in Video section. Please, look through.