Amfetaminesynthese van P2NP via Al/Hg (video)

[G.Patton]

Ik kan je helpen met synthese, je kunt me in privéberichten vragen stellen over.

 

[Barter]

Hi Mister G Patton , after the Aluminum Amalgated with mercury ,
It is said we have to make : P2np + IPa + glacial acetic acid .


Can we replace the acetic acid with Citric Acid ?
In which quantity?

 

[G.Patton]

Hallo, ik denk het niet. Je kunt deze synthese trouwens ook zonder GAA uitvoeren. Kijk op http://bbzzzsvqcrqtki6umym6itiixfhn...troamphetamine-synthesis-nabenhauer-1942.388/

 

[William Dampier]

De gebruikelijke vervanger is mierenzuur, als dat zo makkelijker is. Je kunt voedselazijn op dezelfde manier kopen.

 

[Eddybeaumont]

Bonjours, quelle est la concentration minimum pour acide sulfurique ?

 

[HIGGS BOSSON]

In order for the salt to immediately precipitate, it is necessary to use anhydrous sulfuric acid, and in solutions with acetone, for example, there can be a 10% concentration of sulfuric acid

 

[HIGGS BOSSON]

Either evaporate an aqueous solution of sulfuric acid (distill away the water), or try to acidify with an aqueous solution followed by cooling for crystallization, 12 hours at +1-2 degrees is enough

 

[Kylemalone1297]

How do I test the product to see if it is actualy amphetamine or just white powder that don’t actualy get reacted ?

 

[HIGGS BOSSON]

 

[Kylemalone1297]

Is it supposed to burn into an oil or into a black ash ?

 

[HIGGS BOSSON]

I don't understand your question

 

[Kylemalone1297]

The powder that was produced by amalgam and the one by copper I got won’t burn into an oil when freebased like other amphetamine salts do. So I think it is messed up somehow.

 

[Eddybeaumont]

hello and thank you for this fabulous video. Is it possible to replace mercury (II) nitrate with mercury (II) chloride for amalgamation with aluminum? If so, does the quantity change? if yes in what quantity for the same proportion as in the video please? thank you in advance for your response

 

[G.Patton]

Yes, it's said above and every post about amalgam production. Same molar ration, you need to recount quantity in grams.

 

[golab071]

Would it make sense, when producing larger quantities of the product, to use solvents like DMSO (boiling point: 189°C) or toluene (110°C) instead of IPA (82°C), and to place pieces of broken porcelain in the reactor to stabilize the reaction?

 

[G.Patton]

The reaction is too violate and exothermic. It think, it have no sense.

 

[William Dampier]

DMSO at high temperature and the presence of acid will begin to degrade on DMS and release oxygen as an oxidizing agent. We have a strong release of hydrogen, which in the aggregate can give "explosive gas". Gently with experiments! In addition, DMSO itself is very smelly with high-temperature synthesis in the presence of many components. Try ethylacetate.

 

[michelAMPH]

Ik moet almagaam gaan maken maar nergens geen kwik 2 chloride TE KOOP
WAT kan voor ALMAGAM zorgen

 

[Barter]

Please , ithe video shows 12grams of aluminum into a 2000ml flask .
But I wanted to go 24 grams of aluminum grit into the 2000 ml Flask
Please tell me what is ratio for all quantity of other components.

Is it 2 times more IPA ? Glacial acetic acid ? Sulfuric acid ? H2o ? Caustic soda ? And also what about the
Time for reaction ? Does time of reaction also double ? What about decantation when we double quantity for same glassware ?
( Attached the picture of 24 grams of aluminum into a 2 liter flask .)
Please respond need tour help to start

 

[G.Patton]

Hi, you need bigger flask. Multiply everything twice. Time is about the same.

Start with smaller amount at first.

 

[G.Patton]

Yes, you can. Same, I guess. You have to dissolve al P2NP.

 

[William Dampier]

You can use various solvents, we even synthesized in ethyl acetate (without acetic acid and alcohol). I think this drawback is solved in the process of hydrolysis when heated in the reaction mixture.

 

[William Dampier]

In 10L flask it is better not to synthesize more than 80g p2np. For 2L flask are similar - it is better not to synthesize more than 15g and in the presence of experience. With experience, you can better control the reaction, but the amount of the above will be a great risk.

 

[nofuckups]

What's the exact process of making the P2NP+IPA+GAA solution? Is it just mixing the appropriate quantity of each compound in a beaker, stirring it a bit and then letting it cool? I'm not sure why this part was skipped from the video.

 

[G.Patton]

yes, exactly.

 

[William Dampier]

When it has cooled by part of the P2NP can crystallize again. You can add this precipitate to the flask without dissolution or wash off an additional amount of IPA.

 

[nofuckups]

or just warming up the entire solution a bit before pouring into the aluminium amalgam?

 

[romannestor]

Hello
If I've got the aoil premade, what step could I jump into in the process?

 

[G.Patton]

Hi. Jump directly to acidification step 7:24-8:50

 

[romannestor]

Hi! Thanks for your reply!
The problem I've got is that I don't know the measurements.

 

[romannestor]

Got it now! Thanks again!

 

[G.Patton]

You need to reach pH 5.5-6.5 by addition of the acid as it's said in this video or other one (watch Video section).

 

[Eddybeaumont]

please guys, do you have any idea how to get rid of the waste from this synthesis in a "clean" way? thanks in advance

 

[G.Patton]

Hi, look through Laboratory FAQ section. There are several topics dedicated waste and Hg recuperation.

 

[Eddybeaumont]

Thanks mr Patton